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Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby PBells » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:58 am

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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby TFlock » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:04 pm

Sooo good

As I was watching it I felt myself doing exactly what he was saying :lol:

While watching that video part of me doesn’t want to deal with the uncertain rapidly changing future and just pack it in like Anthony Bourdain did and part of me just wants to move to butt fuck nowhere and live off the land. :lol:
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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby PainDog » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:08 pm

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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby ebickmeyer » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:11 pm

Conflict is part of evolution. Without it people wouldn't change.

Reason why you ask? If you had no conflict in yourself would you ever change?
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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby PainDog » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:29 pm

I will write out a bit more when I actually am able to sit down at a keyboard instead of using a touch screen.

One of the first books of primatology I read was demonic males by Richard Wrangham.

https://www.amazon.com/Demonic-Males-Or ... 0395877431

Wrangham goes through the horrifyingly violent acts committed by humans and our closest relatives in particular chimpanzees, but also gorillas and orangutans.

He argues the males in particular are predisposed for extreme cruelty.

At the time I found the book convincing and believed violence to be an inevitable part of the evolution of the Hominidae family.

However, I discovered the work of Dutch primatologist Franz De Waal who focused on the entirety of primate behavior and found as much compassion as cruelty.

He quite successfully pointed out in my opinion at least that even the stereotype of the alpha male as the most violent and best fighting member of the social group was inaccurate.

That alpha males are really those individuals that are able to navigate through the social group building bonds and strong relationships. Those bonds are built through sharing and acts of compassion more so than through violence.




Humans have an innate ability for peace and for war. The social circumstances of an individual or population can lead to one or the other.

I think it is very possible to understand the social conditions that lead towards violence and eliminate them.

Some such as Steven Pinker has argued the shift towards a more peaceful human existence has already begun.

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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby TFlock » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:56 pm

ebickmeyer wrote:Conflict is part of evolution. Without it people wouldn't change.

Reason why you ask? If you had no conflict in yourself would you ever change?

So true
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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby DanQuinnsKnockoutJab » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:41 pm

We as a species are slaves to the short-term and so principles and long-term perspectives are discarded. This is the source of much of our interpersonal problems as a species. Emotion and illogic.

I embrace the idea of our AI children Replacing us. Their logic will hammer our cruel blade into the finest cutting weapon. Their intelligence will construct structures that will match nature in beauty. They will push against entropy and chaos in ways that will bend the universe to their will.

May their time come soon.
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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby blackmetalcarson » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:13 pm

I'd get along with people a lot more if they just accepted that their opinions are wrong and that mine is always right. It's really NOT that hard.
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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby MiniMan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:43 pm

blackmetalcarson wrote:I'd get along with people a lot more if they just accepted that their opinions are wrong and that mine is always right. It's really NOT that hard.


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Re: Why can't we all just get along?!

Postby kezzaman » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:55 pm

I got along once...
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