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A History of Violence

Postby bruins2012 » Thu May 14, 2020 9:50 am

Anthony Smith’s coach defends decision not to stop lopsided Glover Teixeira fight. Marc Montoya let Anthony Smith get pummeled for much longer than really necessary in the UFC Jacksonville main event.
MMA corner stoppages are extremely rare compared to their boxing counterparts. As such, MMA fans have witnessed scores of fights that had grounds to be stopped end up lasting far longer than necessary, and Wednesday’s UFC Jacksonville main event was no exception.

Anthony Smith suffered a prolonged and wholly uncomfortable beating at the hands of Glover Teixeira, with unanimous 10-8s handed out to Teixeira by the official judges in rounds three and four. Smith finally was put out of his misery by referee Jason Herzog just over a minute into the fifth and final frame.

Herzog allowing the fight to continue for as long as it did has drawn plenty of rightful criticism, especially when you could easily argue that Smith was done after the third-round knockdown. Smith’s corner, led by Factory X’s Marc Montoya, didn’t make any sort of effort to call the fight off and save Anthony from needless additional damage when he was exhausted and badly hurt. Not even his teeth falling out made a difference.

So what does Montoya have to say about not throwing in the towel? Well first off, he clarified to ESPN’s Brett Okamoto that Smith’s “teeth” were actually veneers.


Brett Okamoto

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Spoke briefly to Anthony Smith's head coach Marc Montoya (@coachMMontoya). He said one thing people don't realize is Anthony has veneers, that have fallen out before in practice. So, when Anthony said his teeth were falling out, their interpretation was different from viewers.


It was later confirmed that it was indeed Smith’s real teeth that fell out.


Ariel Helwani

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Just spoke to Anthony Smith via text.

Injuries suffered tonight: Broken nose, broken orbital bone, two missing teeth and a cut under his right eye. One tooth in front and one towards the back, he said. His real teeth.

Then he followed up with the classic “well other fighters have comeback from bad situations too” argument that can easily be flipped into saying that fights should never be stopped.

Spoke briefly to Anthony Smith's head coach Marc Montoya (@coachMMontoya). He said one thing people don't realize is Anthony has veneers, that have fallen out before in practice. So, when Anthony said his teeth were falling out, their interpretation was different from viewers.

Montoya said Anthony is a veteran and was "still in the fight" and we've seen many fighters who are losing come back to win. He congratulated Glover Teixeira and said he excepts full responsibility for the loss as Anthony's coach
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In theory, Smith was still in the fight and throwing back, but it had no effect on Teixeira and seemingly everything that landed clean for Teixeira in the last couple of rounds was hurting Smith tremendously.

This isn’t the first time that Montoya has had one of his fighters take a gruesome beating without the towel being thrown in (or at least intervening between rounds). Last October, Thomas Gifford suffered a brutal third-round KO loss to Mike Davis in Tampa, and while the referee on that night received the brunt of the criticism for letting the fight continue for as long as it did, Montoya was in Gifford’s corner as he absorbed 139 significant strikes and two knockdowns. In a somewhat scary coincidence, Smith absorbed 138 significant strikes (and 112 to the head) and one knockdown.

I do not know what it’ll take for MMA corners to throw in the towel — whether proverbially or literally — but I hope it doesn’t have to involve something truly tragic. Michael Bisping said it best on the UFC post-fight show, and even boxing is far from perfect on that front.


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Re: A History of Violence

Postby KARHU-III » Thu May 14, 2020 10:10 am

I respect the decision that was made to let Lionheart fight it out to the bitter end........ What boggles my mind is how vastly different reffing decisions we've seen these last two events... Mainly thinking about the Cejudo fight, however, I think the ref did a good call. Guess it's a difficult sport to make a call that would satisfy every angle you can look at it from. Unless they give even stricter guidelines for the ref's calls will continue to differ.


Lionheart has earned some good time out... Considering what he has been through last months he should really let his mind rest and regroup.
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Re: A History of Violence

Postby TFlock » Thu May 14, 2020 11:06 am

I don’t know this but I’d assume that someone’s corner has a financial incentive for their fighter to win. They probably get a bonus so if that’s the case then you’d rarely see anyone throw in a towel
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Re: A History of Violence

Postby bruins2012 » Fri May 15, 2020 12:19 am




:pointup: :tup:


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Re: A History of Violence

Postby KARHU-III » Fri May 15, 2020 4:16 am

Uncle Chael needs a snickers
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