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The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby PainDog » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:34 pm

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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby philphan » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:33 pm

How many guys named Gracie are fighting in MMA today? Should a young fighter legally change his name to Gracie?
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:09 pm

dude still havent learned the fucking name
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:13 pm

My god..the promoter picked the fighters.. .....


Ken Shamrock was the hardest fight out there....talk about hand picking opponents.... :lol:


Talk about inventing the wheel. Of course the event was created to push BJJ...


And that's why Royce threw almost 0 punches..


To prove just that.. god damn.. :lol:

dementia..hell of a state.. sumo wasnt hurt... :lol:
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:15 pm

sumo dude was useless....but at the same time they set it up so he would lose,cause Royce woudlnt be able to do fuck all to him.

since he got smacked twice,according to the old dude and nothing happened to him... so Royce woudnt be able to hurt him.



:lol: :lol:

Other judokas were allowerd to wear a gi. Royce choked someone out with his own gi.

shamrock beat someone up with a gi,so did Mezger.


dude is ignorant.

he did not get invited back cause he didnt even know the name of the Organization.


Severn was shit, as well?


Was it only one event,then?


:lol: :lol:
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:18 pm

butthurt striker. no wrestler was invited..imagine that.

:lol: what a bunch of cockmunchers :lol:
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:19 pm

in a game that highly favours the wreslters..... you've got faggit reporters and delluded - retarded veterans,chatting out of their asses
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:20 pm

if im on the ground - I can kick you in the face..but you cant... they are sooo ignorant,my god.
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby PainDog » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:18 pm

If Bill Wallace had ran into the Gracies back in his prime he would have been known as the Gracie Killer.
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby hawdrigoh » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:48 pm

PainDog wrote:If Bill Wallace had ran into the Gracies back in his prime he would have been known as the Gracie Killer.


If William Wallace had ran into Bill Wallace back in his prime the Kill Bill movies would have been straightforward.

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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby abcd » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:13 am

Idk about this conspiracy but there's something I Wana say relating to this

For a fact there is no UFC champion who is jiu jitsu based. The last guy I can remember is werdum and hes a pretty good striker as well. (Before him it was bj?)

Jiu jitsu early on was so effective because no one knew what was going on .nowadays it's more like a fundamental aspect of mma, much like the jab is to boxing or dribbling/passing are to basketball.

However , since mma as a sport is watered down from actual fighting, it's hard to say how necessary or effective jj is at the highest levels of combat when it is life or death

That said, Gracie knew the basics about striking such as distance management the jab and front kick. He knew about wrestling too. He wasn't good really at anything other than JJ but he was aware of what was going on. Where as the other fighters knew only their sport. that being said its not unfathomable to think that if the other competitors knew the basics of jj they might've had their way with Royce. this is evident in the rematch between Royce and shamrock which ended as a draw

In conclusion JJ is hype. It's dope af but it's hype. A good striker with basic JJ will smash a good JJ with basic striking more often than not
That's my humble opinion

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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby PainDog » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:06 am

The only thing the Gracie family has done in the past 20 years is live vicariously through some of their students such as Brian Ortega and Nate Diaz.

Even then they're sleazy enough to try and cheat people who reveared them like Cesar Gracie did to the Diaz brothers.

Sure Roger not-really-Gracie was ONE LHW champ...but LHW is still pretty much non-existent in ONE and was even less when Roger had the belt.
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby abcd » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:44 am

PainDog wrote:Even then they're sleazy enough to try and cheat people who reveared them like Cesar Gracie did to the Diaz brothers.

What happened there?

I always thought they were close af.
But I'm half a casual so irdk

I tried YouTube but couldn't find anything
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:25 am

Roger - A member of the Gracie family, he is the son of Reila Gracie



Renzo gracie.... Has beaten: Former UFC HW champ: Maurice Smith
Former UFC WW champ: Carlos Newton
Former UFC WW champ: Pat Militech
Former King of Pancrase - at any weight possible: Yuki Kondo
Former UFC tournament champion: Oleg Taktarov
Former UFC MW champion: Frank Shamrock(DQ-A win is a win)
And Jean Jacques Machado at ADCC 2000,finals.



Pretty legit record,I would say. ...... :lol: :lol:

He also lost to: Newton,Hughes,Sakuraba,Tamura,Dan henderson.


Not a padded record,at all.



Royce: Beat former UFC superfight and tournament champion: Dan Severn(he wasnt super fight champ at that point,but whateva)
1-1(2-1) with Ken
Beat Kimo
1-1 with sakuraba
BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF YOSHIDA*(who had given Wandy a fight for the ages)
Jason Delucia - who had legit wins on Pancrase - Royce beat him 3 times


I think their family is LEGIT . .... :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The UFC Gracie Conspiracy

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:30 am

abcd wrote:
PainDog wrote:Even then they're sleazy enough to try and cheat people who reveared them like Cesar Gracie did to the Diaz brothers.

What happened there?

I always thought they were close af.
But I'm half a casual so irdk

I tried YouTube but couldn't find anything



he fucked Nick with money.
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