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Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby bruins2012 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:36 pm

SEPTEMBER 8, 2018 | American Airlines Arena | Dallas, Texas



Main Card
Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET


Tyron Woodley vs Darren Till
for welterweight title

Nicco Montano vs Valentina Shevchenko
for women's flyweight title

Jessica Andrade vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz

Carla Esparza vs Tatiana Suarez

Brandon Davis vs Zabit Magomedsharipov



Preliminary Card
FX, 8 p.m. ET


Cody Stamann vs Aljamain Sterling

Charles Byrd vs Darren Stewart

Abdul Razak Alhassan vs Niko Price

John Dodson vs Jimmie Rivera



Preliminary Card
UFC Fight Pass, 6 p.m. ET


Diego Sanchez vs Craig White

Jim Miller vs Alex White

Irene Aldana vs Lucie Pudilova

Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez

Frank Camacho vs Geoff Neal
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby bruins2012 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:37 pm

Wow, main card is STACKED!!!!!!

And they are really getting behind and pushing Rivera!!

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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:18 am

bruins2012 wrote:Wow, main card is STACKED!!!!!!

And they are really getting behind and pushing Rivera!!

:P

:lol: :lol: the prelim card is better, man Dana hates Woodley
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby bruins2012 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:51 am

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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby PBells » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:52 am

Where's the "double KO" option for the main event?
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby JACKnoneREACHER » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:36 am

That main card is covered in barf!

I was really looking forward to that title fight and zabit but they filled that sweet fight sandwich with watery barf! Won't be watching this one live, shame.

Andrade and esparza on the main card, diego and Dodson buried. On what planet is a Diego Sanchez fight less fun to watch than a wmma fight?

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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby Mr Meow » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:45 am

JACKnoneREACHER wrote:That main card is covered in barf!

I was really looking forward to that title fight and zabit but they filled that sweet fight sandwich with watery barf! Won't be watching this one live, shame.

Andrade and esparza on the main card, diego and Dodson buried. On what planet is a Diego Sanchez fight less fun to watch than a wmma fight?

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Personally I would have switched the Al-Hassan vs Price or the Dodson Rivera fight with the Suarez Esparza fight.

The UFC is trying to make Suarez into its next star though. She has a very fun and dominant grappling style where she smashes people with elbows until they give up a choke, plus she is Latina (obviously) and survived cancer that should have killed her. So I think the UFC is trying to market her hard.

I have no issues with the Andrade Karolina fight on the main card. Andrade is incredibly entertaining to watch, if you (not saying you in particular) do not like her fight you really are not an mma fan quite honestly.

I would have to see Al Hassan and his 100% KO rate fight Price and his hammerfists from the bottom TKO prowess on the main card. The UFC seems to be banking on Suarez as a new star though and Esparza is a former champ who is grappling centered but also not nearly as good a grappler as Suarez.

Nothing against Diego but he needs to retire here soon. He has been getting put out with punishment that he would have walked through ages ago. I like Diego but guys like him, or the recently retired Jake Ellenberger, have the worst styles for longevity unless they adapt and change up strategies. Unfortunately neither did and when they can't go forward and wrestle box through damaging punches, their career is all but over :butthurt:
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby JACKnoneREACHER » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:12 pm

Mr Meow wrote:
JACKnoneREACHER wrote:That main card is covered in barf!

I was really looking forward to that title fight and zabit but they filled that sweet fight sandwich with watery barf! Won't be watching this one live, shame.

Andrade and esparza on the main card, diego and Dodson buried. On what planet is a Diego Sanchez fight less fun to watch than a wmma fight?

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Personally I would have switched the Al-Hassan vs Price or the Dodson Rivera fight with the Suarez Esparza fight.

The UFC is trying to make Suarez into its next star though. She has a very fun and dominant grappling style where she smashes people with elbows until they give up a choke, plus she is Latina (obviously) and survived cancer that should have killed her. So I think the UFC is trying to market her hard.

I have no issues with the Andrade Karolina fight on the main card. Andrade is incredibly entertaining to watch, if you (not saying you in particular) do not like her fight you really are not an mma fan quite honestly.

I would have to see Al Hassan and his 100% KO rate fight Price and his hammerfists from the bottom TKO prowess on the main card. The UFC seems to be banking on Suarez as a new star though and Esparza is a former champ who is grappling centered but also not nearly as good a grappler as Suarez.

Nothing against Diego but he needs to retire here soon. He has been getting put out with punishment that he would have walked through ages ago. I like Diego but guys like him, or the recently retired Jake Ellenberger, have the worst styles for longevity unless they adapt and change up strategies. Unfortunately neither did and when they can't go forward and wrestle box through damaging punches, their career is all but over :butthurt:


Oh Diego is done, no question but always fun to watch.

That should be a fight night card, it's garbage.

5 fights on the main card of a ppv and 3 of those fights are filled people no one is trying to pay to see. Five really but two of those are for a belt.

Woodley doesn't sell, till is only a name for us nerds. Same with zabit, as great as he is he's only known to us nerds. Till and zabit aren't going to make this sell, either will andrade, esparza, shevchenko, or Woodley. None of these fights have mass appeal and the card is filled with them. There's no draws on that main card outside of the main event and given woodley's history of poor buy rates I think this is going to be a stinker.

I don't have an issue with any of those fights being on a main card, but having them all on the same main card is silly. No draws and they are trying to get people to buy it :lol:

In the two free cards following this they have hunt, oleinik, arlokski, alves, manuwa, Santos, magney, cowboy o, lil nog :| , alvey, barao, Lombard, Muhammad, and ol' Ben Saunders. And a sleeper fight in rusty and Kajan and walking pert plus commercial Elias theodorororo.

Those fights are free, and this watered down barf card is a ppv. They easily could have swapped some fights from those cards and this one to try and build some interest.

This will have an awful buy rate, likely more people watching reruns of cops that night than buying this card. Seems like they filled the card after till and Woodley just to have it filled, there's nothing else there to draw people in.

Watching cards with casuals the wmma fights are the new job fitch fights, smoke breaks. Three of them in a row and no one is making it to the main event except die hard fight nerds.
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby Mr Meow » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:54 pm

JACKnoneREACHER wrote:
Mr Meow wrote:
JACKnoneREACHER wrote:That main card is covered in barf!

I was really looking forward to that title fight and zabit but they filled that sweet fight sandwich with watery barf! Won't be watching this one live, shame.

Andrade and esparza on the main card, diego and Dodson buried. On what planet is a Diego Sanchez fight less fun to watch than a wmma fight?

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Personally I would have switched the Al-Hassan vs Price or the Dodson Rivera fight with the Suarez Esparza fight.

The UFC is trying to make Suarez into its next star though. She has a very fun and dominant grappling style where she smashes people with elbows until they give up a choke, plus she is Latina (obviously) and survived cancer that should have killed her. So I think the UFC is trying to market her hard.

I have no issues with the Andrade Karolina fight on the main card. Andrade is incredibly entertaining to watch, if you (not saying you in particular) do not like her fight you really are not an mma fan quite honestly.

I would have to see Al Hassan and his 100% KO rate fight Price and his hammerfists from the bottom TKO prowess on the main card. The UFC seems to be banking on Suarez as a new star though and Esparza is a former champ who is grappling centered but also not nearly as good a grappler as Suarez.

Nothing against Diego but he needs to retire here soon. He has been getting put out with punishment that he would have walked through ages ago. I like Diego but guys like him, or the recently retired Jake Ellenberger, have the worst styles for longevity unless they adapt and change up strategies. Unfortunately neither did and when they can't go forward and wrestle box through damaging punches, their career is all but over :butthurt:


Oh Diego is done, no question but always fun to watch.

That should be a fight night card, it's garbage.

5 fights on the main card of a ppv and 3 of those fights are filled people no one is trying to pay to see. Five really but two of those are for a belt.

Woodley doesn't sell, till is only a name for us nerds. Same with zabit, as great as he is he's only known to us nerds. Till and zabit aren't going to make this sell, either will andrade, esparza, shevchenko, or Woodley. None of these fights have mass appeal and the card is filled with them. There's no draws on that main card outside of the main event and given woodley's history of poor buy rates I think this is going to be a stinker.

I don't have an issue with any of those fights being on a main card, but having them all on the same main card is silly. No draws and they are trying to get people to buy it :lol:

In the two free cards following this they have hunt, oleinik, arlokski, alves, manuwa, Santos, magney, cowboy o, lil nog :| , alvey, barao, Lombard, Muhammad, and ol' Ben Saunders. And a sleeper fight in rusty and Kajan and walking pert plus commercial Elias theodorororo.

Those fights are free, and this watered down barf card is a ppv. They easily could have swapped some fights from those cards and this one to try and build some interest.

This will have an awful buy rate, likely more people watching reruns of cops that night than buying this card. Seems like they filled the card after till and Woodley just to have it filled, there's nothing else there to draw people in.

Watching cards with casuals the wmma fights are the new job fitch fights, smoke breaks. Three of them in a row and no one is making it to the main event except die hard fight nerds.



Dude I could not agree with ya much more mr sir. I think in terms of us mma fight nerds, the main 5 fights are pretty solid. In terms of mainstream recognition it is horseshit :lol: Like you said none of these fighters have been proven to be a draw in any sense of the word. Till I am sure does well in Europe but in America his name is as unrecognizable as just about anyone else on the roster.

Especially with some of the names you pointed out which are booked next month, this main card seems very poorly constructed for anything but the die hard fan who already knows who someone like Zabit is.

If the UFC is going to continue to put fighters of this cultural relevance on cards, they should really keep the ppv price the same and add a 6th fight. Just my opinion. I do not see that being an issue for them and its a way to advertise ppvs without advertising the fighters who the casual fans know nothing of
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby JACKnoneREACHER » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:56 pm

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I like the idea of adding a fight to the main card if they start them one hour earlier. Just bump someone else up from the prelims, I'd like to see the numbers on those fights. Seems like a lot of fighters fighting in fights that few ppl watch.
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby philphan » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:13 pm

It's always fun to have more fights but Till beating down TWood should be enough for anyone. It will be epic for so many reasons. War Till!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:15 pm

hopefully dana can add BJ Penn in the card. .. maybe a nice contest against CM Punk..?


i think that CM Punk would be the slight favorite, at this point..

its like a D class amateur fighter vs a bald fat bum..

the D class fighter will propably win.
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Postby Im_Not_Surprised » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:17 pm

Darren Till KO RD 2 VIA elbows. Tyron's days as the "GOAT" are numbered. Woodly thinks it's a good idea to get inside on Till, going to find out quick that's a mistake with those gorilla arms reigning down from above.


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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:25 pm

Im_Not_Surprised wrote:Darren Till KO RD 2 VIA elbows. Tyron's days as the "GOAT" are numbered. Woodly thinks it's a good idea to get inside on Till, going to find out quick that's a mistake with those gorilla arms reigning down from above.


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Re: Official Discussion: UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:28 pm

EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:hopefully dana can add BJ Penn in the card. .. maybe a nice contest against CM Punk..?


i think that CM Punk would be the slight favorite, at this point..

its like a D class amateur fighter vs a bald fat bum..

the D class fighter will propably win.

You mean the same Penn that knocked Siver out in round 1?

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