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Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:14 pm
by danehoy
Some of you may be as anti-pill as I am. For those of you falling in that category, you may want something to ease the pain from daily workouts or what not. Here are a few things I saw online

http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/12422922

Summary:
Willowbark--active ingredient of aspirin without some of the side effects. Don't take this before slitting your wrists and taking a hot bath though...that side effect still likely exists.

Boswalia--aka frankincense--after 8 weeks of taking the stuff, it is said in the report to reduce pain by 90%. Your lord and savior Jesus Christ expects this painkiller on his second coming, so kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Cherries-- acts as an anti-inflammatory. For those eating Ranger candy, this might be an alternative that is friendlier on your stomach.

Turmeric--aka Indian saffron aka curcumin--an Indian spice that is a good anti-inflammatory food. Caution--while your aches and pains may feel better, my experience with Indian food is that you will pay for it on the way out. Black pepper will increase uptake of turmeric, and they should be taken together for better results (according to the doctor in the report)

Hops--yes, the stuff in beer works as an antiinflamatory. While beer works, it is well known that the alcohol can have negative effects. Too obvious for a joke, I will just say that I like to cook with beer (dark beer), and that should allow for your dose of hops without the EtOH.

Ginger and Green Tea--I am guessing it is an anti-inflammatory since everything else listed is, though the doc didn't say that directly. However, my wife often cooks ginger with Coke for upset stomach, and it seems to work.

Tell me if you try any of these. Hopefully it helps.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:27 pm
by danehoy
I didn't think this would be stickied, and I feel like I sort of owe more to the viewing audience.

I am a big believer in antioxidants after working out. The best part about the foods that best fit this catagory is that they are fruits and veggies that are good for you.

Carotenoids--the yellow and orange veggies. Carrots, squashes, sweet potatoes, oranges are examples of yellow and orange fruits and veggies. If you didn't know that, let me know and I will also cut your food and make airplane noises as I feed you.

Cocoa--You know that chocolate milk you drink like Smith tells you to? Well, that probably isn't real cocoa if you get it from the store, but if you spring for the cocoa on your own, you are adding the worlds greatest antioxidant. And you listen to Smith...who has the power to sticky your posts.

Superberry--not a berry, just a classy name to let you know that berries are uber antioxidants. Blueberries are probably your most accessible. Typically, more water equals less antioxidants. For those of you looking to heed my words--5 pounds of dried blueberries are on sale at Costco for like $8...right next to another decent antioxidant called cranberries. BTW, tomatoes are berries...and knowing is half the battle

Vitamin E and C--a powerful antioxidant available in pill form. Now, I would not post anything advocating you take a pill, but as pills go, these are pretty much as safe and cheap as they come. Vitamin E is probably the most important fat soluble vitamin, and vitamin C pills taste like candy. Now, if you just refuse to eat healthy, get a bottle of several hundred pills for a few bucks and take the recommended amount.

Selenium--Good old number 34 on the Atomic charts and active ingredient of dandruff shampoos, how we love you! You see, Selenium is necessary for enzymes involved with antioxidants and acts like a sponge. Unlike all the other tree-hugging foods mentioned, this one comes via meat. Pork, lamb, beef, turkey, sea food--good cuts or offal--all of it loaded with the stuff. Now, this stuff is suppose to be a trace mineral in our diets, and some supplement will probably do you more harm than good, so just know that you know have an excuse to eat meat. I may be making this up, but if you kill the meat-contianing-animal with your bare hands, it has even more antioxidants.

I will work next on what to avoid eating so as to avoid pain...but that is another day.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:03 am
by danehoy
Things to avoid eating that might help with pain

Tyramine--found in things that are aged primarily, such as cheeses, yogurts, tofu, marinated meats....you get the idea. Excess tyramine can lead to headaches/migraines, and is likely why your wife cannot have sex. It seems to be involved in the nervous system, possibly as a neurotransmitter. People on certain heart meds avoid it, maybe you should too.

Monosodium glutamate--aka MSG--it is a flavor enhancer, and I may be making this up, but Chinese restaurants use it to make cat taste like beef. The negative effects of MSG are not clear cut, but it may be one of those things just worth skipping. The most common associated problem is stomach pain, though seemingly anecdotal contributions to pain also include joint pain, chest pain, numbness (is that really pain?), tightness and swelling. Also, may cause pregnancy...no, that is alcohol.

Alcohol--may cause pregnancy, see above as my reference. This has its own topic on why it is bad. http://www.mmalinker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=23265 Note-dehydration will be prevalent, other compounds in beer will lead to pain like hangovers

Artificial sweeteners--Doctors have associated various artificial sweeteners with everything from kidney pain to muscle pain. Part of the problem is that aspartame can be broken down into truly toxic stuff like formic acid (ant bites and alcohol blindness) and formaldehyde (embalming fluid). Sucralose, a more recent and growing art. flavor, adds chlorine to sugar molocules where there use to be an oxygen. Chlorocarbons can cause swelling of the kidneys and liver, and that is the mild symptoms of pain that you might notice. It may take 4-6 weeks for symptoms to decrease, and quitting the stuff is hard--it is found everywhere, and likely will inherit the Earth with Elvis and cockroaches after nuclear holocaust.

Caffeine--this one is paradoxical. It can actually decrease pain when taken with a workout and is added to medicines to enhance pain reduction. In fact, some of the foods listed in "what to eat" have caffeine. I put it here because caffeine can be affect sleep (which has been linked to pain), and the stimulant causes tension, restricted blood vessels and is otherwise a cup of stress. The idea here is be smart when taking caffeine in your diet. The half life of caffeine is 3-4 hours, and at 4 half lives, 94% of the drug is eliminated.

Excess--Being over-weight is highly correlated with pain, such as joint pain and shooting pain down your left arm (call 911, you are having a heart attack).

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:32 am
by mrfurlupple
good read.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:55 am
by easycore
You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:01 am
by ThirdCoastCombat
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

im not sure, but i dont think you can build up cartilage. once its gone i think its gone for good.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:27 pm
by CCMAR
ThirdCoastCombat wrote:
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

im not sure, but i dont think you can build up cartilage. once its gone i think its gone for good.


Really, I thought there was a method for this... hmm, I'm going to have to look into this one

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:21 pm
by danehoy
CCMAR wrote:
ThirdCoastCombat wrote:
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

im not sure, but i dont think you can build up cartilage. once its gone i think its gone for good.


Really, I thought there was a method for this... hmm, I'm going to have to look into this one

cartilage is poorly vascularized, and takes time and proper rehab

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:55 pm
by easycore
shit

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:48 am
by CCMAR
danehoy wrote:
CCMAR wrote:
ThirdCoastCombat wrote:
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

im not sure, but i dont think you can build up cartilage. once its gone i think its gone for good.


Really, I thought there was a method for this... hmm, I'm going to have to look into this one

cartilage is poorly vascularized, and takes time and proper rehab


True. I thoguht I read somewhere regarding this... But as ide from rehab I hear you regarding the vascular portion...

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:34 am
by PacquiaoFan
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

I am not sure if it builds cartilledge, but glucosamine chondroitin is supposed to help with joint pain, and I think it helps maintain the health of your cartilledge. The stuff helps me with my joint pain.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:01 pm
by easycore
Thanks man. I'll give it a shot.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:17 pm
by chroniclee
PacquiaoFan wrote:
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

I am not sure if it builds cartilledge, but glucosamine chondroitin is supposed to help with joint pain, and I think it helps maintain the health of your cartilledge. The stuff helps me with my joint pain.


Yes! Glucosamine is awesome. When my girlfriend worked for a vet, they would prescribe old dogs glucosamine all the time and it helped them walk better.

The bottle will say something crazy like take 2 in the morning and 2 at night, from my experience I only take 1 every night before i go to bed otherwise it makes me constipated. But it works great even just taking 1

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:06 am
by UmaineMMA
Great read, i have been using Cherries to help inflamed joints for a while now.

Re: Natural Pain Remedies

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:12 am
by PacquiaoFan
chroniclee wrote:
PacquiaoFan wrote:
easycore wrote:You don't happen to know anything that would help build up cartilage do you? Not for stretching, my right shoulder has just taken way too much abuse, and I have bad joints as it is.

I am not sure if it builds cartilledge, but glucosamine chondroitin is supposed to help with joint pain, and I think it helps maintain the health of your cartilledge. The stuff helps me with my joint pain.


Yes! Glucosamine is awesome. When my girlfriend worked for a vet, they would prescribe old dogs glucosamine all the time and it helped them walk better.

The bottle will say something crazy like take 2 in the morning and 2 at night, from my experience I only take 1 every night before i go to bed otherwise it makes me constipated. But it works great even just taking 1

Hmm, interesting, I also only take one a day when my knees start acting up, and in a few days I start to feel the results (maybe it is in my mind though :? , I know that it should take longer periods of administration in order to truly experience it's benefits).