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Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:16 pm
by philphan
Demian Maia explains why Charles Oliveira is the ‘man to beat’ Islam Makhachev, Khabib Nurmagomedov
https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/6/22/2 ... omedov-ufc
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In 2013, Khabib Nurmagomedov dismantled Thiago Tavares one day after wearing a t-shirt that read “if sambo was easy it would be called jiu-jitsu” at the UFC Sao Paulo weigh-ins. In the end, no one was able to stop Nurmagomedov’s ground game before his retirement in 2020.

With Islam Makhachev now on the rise as Nurmagomedov’s protege in the lightweight division and gunning for a shot at UFC gold, longtime veteran Demian Maia sees Charles Oliveira, the uncrowned king in the 155-pound class, as the one to decipher the tricky puzzle.

“If there’s a man to beat that type of fighter, it’s Charles, because Charles has [a good] guard [game],” Maia said on this week’s episode of MMA Fighting podcast Trocação Franca. “You have to have [a good] guard to beat someone like that, enough guard to at least survive but also be offensive, to be dangerous there. Charles has that. Charles is a dangerous fight for that type of fighter. Not to mention he’s dangerous as hell on the feet.”

Having a good guard game wouldn’t be enough to stop Makhachev or Nurmagomedov from nullifying an opponent’s jiu-jitsu from top position and controlling them round after round, though, and Maia has been in that situation over the course of his MMA career.


“It’s kind of the same strategy when I fought Ben Askren,” said Maia, who choked out the Olympic wrestler and former Bellator and ONE welterweight champion with a rear-naked choke in 2019. “I was taken down and was working right away. You can go for a sweep or a submission during the takedown. Not that you can’t be off your back, but you don’t wanna be there early, when you opponent has too much energy to hold you and steal rounds.

“I had this drill back when I fought Ben Askren, he’d take me down and I would go for the ankle, a triangle, a sweep, you know? I still do these drills to this day. But I think you have to be the type of fighter Charles is to be someone like that. If you don’t have jiu-jitsu, you don’t beat these guys.”

Maia, who returns to action Saturday in Europe against Benson Henderson in a grappling match at Polaris, made his welterweight debut in 2012 against Dong Hyun Kim on the same card that saw Nurmagomedov go the distance with Gleison Tibau, and Maia remembers watching “The Eagle” work out in the locker room prior to UFC 148.

“He was warming up with us, such a nice guy,” Maia said. “[Coach] ‘Leozinho’ Vieira said, ‘Demian, this kid is so tough. He’ll be champion one day.’ I asked him if he had good wrestling and he said, ‘No, he has good jiu-jitsu.’ He trained with a bunch of jiu-jitsu guys at AKA and has that incredible background in wrestling and sambo, so he combined all that.”

Maia, however, said “I would put [my money]” on Oliveira to win if he gets paired up against Makhachev next. “I’m not a betting guy, but I would,” Maia said.

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:18 pm
by Alexbkk75
I read somewhere that Oliveira vs Islam was targeted for Ocotober.

I hope if it happens that Charles will bully him and bring Khabib out of retirement :twisted:

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:46 am
by jblaze
I hope Islam holds him on the fence for half the fight. Tired of everyone being on Oliveira's sack.

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:23 pm
by Alexbkk75
jblaze wrote:I hope Islam holds him on the fence for half the fight. Tired of everyone being on Oliveira's sack.


That's your wish? For Islam to lay and pray him? Or just clinch on the fence? Damn, I wish their fight will be better than that regardless of who takes it :lol:

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:00 am
by Ghost of PBells
jblaze wrote:I hope Islam holds him on the fence for half the fight. Tired of everyone being on Oliveira's sack.


Reported

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:57 pm
by hawgridoh
Looks like strong grapplers are starting to rise to the top of LW.

Spoiler:

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:25 am
by asdfghjkl
jblaze wrote:I hope Islam holds him on the fence for half the fight. Tired of everyone being on Oliveira's sack.


People have been banned for far less on this site.

Phil you old crusty, wish you were a child around joe biden, moderator...you know what to do

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:01 am
by philphan
#banhammer :mrgreen:

Re: Olivera can beat Islam and Khabib

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:57 am
by jblaze
asdfghjkl wrote:
jblaze wrote:I hope Islam holds him on the fence for half the fight. Tired of everyone being on Oliveira's sack.


People have been banned for far less on this site.

Phil you old crusty, wish you were a child around joe biden, moderator...you know what to do

Geez man it's not like I said GSP should come out of retirement and dry hump Oliveira's leg for 25 minutes. Everywhere I look there some interview from Oliveira, one of his teammates or some random Brazilian saying Oliveira is better everywhere. Well there is the fence, wrestling, top control. Even if it ruins one of the year's best fights the fence might be the way to go. Also Joe Biden is young and capable after he fell trying to get off his bike he got up very quickly.