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Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:49 am
by jblaze
SpeakEasy wrote:
Barnett could be considered it. Normally I do not consider a world champ to be a journeymen


I concur in MMA especially it's hard to relegate a journeyman status to a champion but in boxing with the lack of meaning behind so many belts made for some journeyman to win a title.
The definition of journeyman is a worker or athlete who is reliable but not outstanding so I guess Barnett could easily be considered outstanding with his record.
I rescind my nomination and instead Ben Rothwell in his place since Rothwell has the win over him

Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett, Alistair Overeem, Roy Nelson, Ricco Rodriguez


Marquadt had a belt in Strikeforce so maybe you are playing favorites.

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:04 pm
by SpeakEasy
jblaze wrote:
SpeakEasy wrote:
Barnett could be considered it. Normally I do not consider a world champ to be a journeymen


I concur in MMA especially it's hard to relegate a journeyman status to a champion but in boxing with the lack of meaning behind so many belts made for some journeyman to win a title.
The definition of journeyman is a worker or athlete who is reliable but not outstanding so I guess Barnett could easily be considered outstanding with his record.
I rescind my nomination and instead Ben Rothwell in his place since Rothwell has the win over him

Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett, Alistair Overeem, Roy Nelson, Ricco Rodriguez


Marquadt had a belt in Strikeforce so maybe you are playing favorites.


Yes, my constant support and admiration is well documented for Barnett, I knew my bias wouldn't go unnoticed, thank you for keeping me honest. :cry:

But for discussion sake, what makes you say that?
I don't protest to be the final say on this nor the expert.
I legitimately said I'm unsure how to classify a journeyman in MMA, titles hold more value in MMA in boxing to me since there's 42 for each division so i can easily list boxing journeyman who got a belt.
Strikeforce is great and yes I could take that one back or I could put Barnett back in, Barnett's UFC title as mentioned by meow may make me biased as I potentially value that more.
It really depends what we classify a journeyman as and at this point I've put forth a definition I like Marquardt,his finishes of Woodley and Maia are outstanding but was he or was he reliable? I lean towards the latter more than the former hesitantly so but I guess it's a bit bias cause it's my opinion.
Thinking about it the same way I did with Barnett I'm quite on the fence about Marquardt but I lean more towards me being right but his finish of Woodley is magic.

But I'm really sorry I hurt you, I really didn't mean for your day to start off so bad, please tell me the appropriate ban length for this indiscretion :heart:

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:49 pm
by Mr Meow
SpeakEasy wrote:
jblaze wrote:
SpeakEasy wrote:
Barnett could be considered it. Normally I do not consider a world champ to be a journeymen


I concur in MMA especially it's hard to relegate a journeyman status to a champion but in boxing with the lack of meaning behind so many belts made for some journeyman to win a title.
The definition of journeyman is a worker or athlete who is reliable but not outstanding so I guess Barnett could easily be considered outstanding with his record.
I rescind my nomination and instead Ben Rothwell in his place since Rothwell has the win over him

Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett, Alistair Overeem, Roy Nelson, Ricco Rodriguez


Marquadt had a belt in Strikeforce so maybe you are playing favorites.


Yes, my constant support and admiration is well documented for Barnett, I knew my bias wouldn't go unnoticed, thank you for keeping me honest. :cry:

But for discussion sake, what makes you say that?
I don't protest to be the final say on this nor the expert.
I legitimately said I'm unsure how to classify a journeyman in MMA, titles hold more value in MMA in boxing to me since there's 42 for each division so i can easily list boxing journeyman who got a belt.
Strikeforce is great and yes I could take that one back or I could put Barnett back in, Barnett's UFC title as mentioned by meow may make me biased as I potentially value that more.
It really depends what we classify a journeyman as and at this point I've put forth a definition I like Marquardt,his finishes of Woodley and Maia are outstanding but was he or was he reliable? I lean towards the latter more than the former hesitantly so but I guess it's a bit bias cause it's my opinion.
Thinking about it the same way I did with Barnett I'm quite on the fence about Marquardt but I lean more towards me being right but his finish of Woodley is magic.

But I'm really sorry I hurt you, I really didn't mean for your day to start off so bad, please tell me the appropriate ban length for this indiscretion :heart:



Good good!

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight

Fuck each other up! We want blood. BLOOOOOOD!


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Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:57 am
by 320IDAVE
Manhoeff.

Best MMA wins should be Hunt, Cyborg aaaaand....Akiyama? ah no he lost VS Akiyama. :D

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:58 am
by Mr Meow
320IDAVE wrote:Manhoeff.

Best MMA wins should be Hunt, Cyborg aaaaand....Akiyama? ah no he lost VS Akiyama. :D


Hunto. Cyborg. Kazuo Misaki. Ian Freeman. Denis Kang. Kato. Doug Marshal

He made Crosley Gracie cry, poop himself, then tap out in the corner from ground and pound.

I apawwwwwlogize for this angering you. I really do

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:47 am
by 320IDAVE
Mr Meow wrote:
320IDAVE wrote:Manhoeff.

Best MMA wins should be Hunt, Cyborg aaaaand....Akiyama? ah no he lost VS Akiyama. :D


Hunto. Cyborg. Kazuo Misaki. Ian Freeman. Denis Kang. Kato. Doug Marshal

He made Crosley Gracie cry, poop himself, then tap out in the corner from ground and pound.

I apawwwwwlogize for this angering you. I really do



I actually like Melvin and despise most of who he beat, especially if they are a gracie.

Other than Hunt I was happy to see him beat the rest.

My Korean surrounding said I look like Denis's brother....

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:58 am
by Mr Meow
320IDAVE wrote:
Mr Meow wrote:
320IDAVE wrote:Manhoeff.

Best MMA wins should be Hunt, Cyborg aaaaand....Akiyama? ah no he lost VS Akiyama. :D


Hunto. Cyborg. Kazuo Misaki. Ian Freeman. Denis Kang. Kato. Doug Marshal

He made Crosley Gracie cry, poop himself, then tap out in the corner from ground and pound.

I apawwwwwlogize for this angering you. I really do



I actually like Melvin and despise most of who he beat, especially if they are a gracie.

Other than Hunt I was happy to see him beat the rest.

My Korean surrounding said I look like Denis's brother....


You will enjoy this. The finish starts around 10:29 or so

Rumors are you can hear Crosley squeal for his life several times


Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:53 am
by yoseph
That dude must have brain damage after all those shots to the back of the head from a prime manhoef

Re: MMA Journeymen's Best Wins

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:57 pm
by blackmetalcarson
Valentijn Overeem: Randy Couture, Renato Sobral