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Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:47 pm
by asdfghjkl
Do you think the Mayweather fight was real or fixed?

https://youtu.be/c5BNOtbKNoI

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:03 pm
by PBells
I like to defer to Occam's razor in times like these since I'm a pretentious twat who never admits he could be wrong.

Is it more likely that a 50-0 boxer (widely regarded as one the greatest of all time) has no trouble whatsoever against a young kickboxer who has no pro boxing experience, a fraction of the combat sport experience, and is four (4) boxing weightclasses smaller.... or that financially-struggling and desperate RIZIN had their biggest name, draw, and legit crossover star take a dive on their biggest show of the year because...? Surely the precious money and ratings would dictate the homegrown hero come out on top?

That was basically what sending a scrappy twenty-something to box an grown-ass veteran would look like IMO.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:19 pm
by asdfghjkl
PBells wrote:I like to defer to Occam's razor in times like these since I'm a pretentious twat who never admits he could be wrong.

Is it more likely that a 50-0 boxer (widely regarded as one the greatest of all time) has no trouble whatsoever against a young kickboxer who has no pro boxing experience, a fraction of the combat sport experience, and is four (4) boxing weightclasses smaller.... or that financially-struggling and desperate RIZIN had their biggest name, draw, and legit crossover star take a dive on their biggest show of the year because...? Surely the precious money and ratings would dictate the homegrown hero come out on top?

That was basically what sending a scrappy twenty-something to box an grown-ass veteran would look like IMO.


Flopping around like a fish and all? Have you ever seen that kind of unnatural movement...ever? Even in a street fight? It was paw-thetic acting.

I think this whole idea was just a bad business move on rizins part.
"Come beat up one of our champions and we'll trade you money for star power."

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:44 pm
by SpeakEasy
:lol: youve obvioisly never boxed.
If you thought that right hand had no lasting effects that the left hand just accentuated then i sure hope you clicked off the moron option.
If youd ever actually been in a match where you've been hit in the body, twice, by a much bigger opponent youd understand tens reaction.
Serioisly is this cons alt account? At least with con i can tell if hes trolling or being a retard.

Pbells got the nail on the head there.
Luckily, i know im not a moron, doctors just say im special and eating crayons wont have that much damage on my digestive system.
If I'm ten and i was privvy to a fight fixing id tell fucking everyone i could especially after the way may was clowning on him.
I dont see why may would have needed to fix the fight, he isnt as all time great as some peoples say but he is a fantastic fighter with waaay more experience and weight.
Theres a reason this fight came to fruition and we never once heard may even mention a monster like monster inoue, may knew the odds against ten were in mays favour, ten couldnt use kicks and its retarded and moronic to assume a relatively inexperienced fighter like ten may have been able to capitalize on mistakes and openings that far more experienced boxers were unable to, age difference not withstanding.
I dont disagree that it was fishy but i dont see a young guy getting punked like that for any amount of money.
His corner or rizin is totally different but i think mayweather is smart enough to know the matchup was enough in his favor and the fallout of fixing an exhibition match as a retired boxer who prides himself on claiming the GOAT was reason enough not to fix it.
I would absolutely love to see may take on inoue now though, inoue is tiny but i think is more of a pugilist than ten and could push may to a much better fight.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:50 pm
by asdfghjkl
SpeakEasy wrote::lol: youve obvioisly never boxed.
If you thought that right hand had no lasting effects that the left hand just accentuated then i sure hope you clicked off the moron option.
If youd ever actually been in a match where you've been hit in the body, twice, by a much bigger opponent youd understand tens reaction.
Serioisly is this cons alt account? At least with con i can tell if hes trolling or being a retard.

Pbells got the nail on the head there.
Luckily, i know im not a moron, doctors just say im special and eating crayons wont have that much damage on my digestive system.
If I'm ten and i was privvy to a fight fixing id tell fucking everyone i could especially after the way may was clowning on him.
I dont see why may would have needed to fix the fight, he isnt as all time great as some peoples say but he is a fantastic fighter with waaay more experience and weight.
Theres a reason this fight came to fruition and we never once heard may even mention a monster like monster inoue, may knew the odds against ten were in mays favour, ten couldnt use kicks and its retarded and moronic to assume a relatively inexperienced fighter like ten may have been able to capitalize on mistakes and openings that far more experienced boxers were unable to, age difference not withstanding.
I dont disagree that it was fishy but i dont see a young guy getting punked like that for any amount of money.
His corner or rizin is totally different but i think mayweather is smart enough to know the matchup was enough in his favor and the fallout of fixing an exhibition match as a retired boxer who prides himself on claiming the GOAT was reason enough not to fix it.
I would absolutely love to see may take on inoue now though, inoue is tiny but i think is more of a pugilist than ten and could push may to a much better fight.


Bruh I've been training over 10 years, spent a year in Thailand and had 2 fights there. Lost my first one even though the dude couldnt walk after (shit judges who called the fight in the bookies favour) and I won my second fight where I had to lay in bed for a week from eating leg kicks from a massive thai. Good thing I had better boxing though.

I've also trained people who have gone on to fight in Thailand.

Enlighten me. What have you done?

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:16 pm
by philphan
PBells wrote:I like to defer to Occam's razor in times like these since I'm a pretentious twat who never admits he could be wrong.

Is it more likely that a 50-0 boxer (widely regarded as one the greatest of all time) has no trouble whatsoever against a young kickboxer who has no pro boxing experience, a fraction of the combat sport experience, and is four (4) boxing weightclasses smaller.... or that financially-struggling and desperate RIZIN had their biggest name, draw, and legit crossover star take a dive on their biggest show of the year because...? Surely the precious money and ratings would dictate the homegrown hero come out on top?

That was basically what sending a scrappy twenty-something to box an grown-ass veteran would look like IMO.

:star: :gold:

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:18 pm
by PBells
asdfghjkl wrote:Flopping around like a fish and all? Have you ever seen that kind of unnatural movement...ever? Even in a street fight? It was paw-thetic acting.


Yes, actually. Tenshin got dropped and flopped the exact same way in one of his early kickboxing fights.

It's pretty hard to stand up and stay steady when your equilibrium is fucked from hard shots to the temple.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:21 pm
by jblaze
PBells wrote:I like to defer to Occam's razor in times like these since I'm a pretentious twat who never admits he could be wrong.

Is it more likely that a 50-0 boxer (widely regarded as one the greatest of all time) has no trouble whatsoever against a young kickboxer who has no pro boxing experience, a fraction of the combat sport experience, and is four (4) boxing weightclasses smaller.... or that financially-struggling and desperate RIZIN had their biggest name, draw, and legit crossover star take a dive on their biggest show of the year because...? Surely the precious money and ratings would dictate the homegrown hero come out on top?

That was basically what sending a scrappy twenty-something to box an grown-ass veteran would look like IMO.

Also when you are a southpaw people can make you look a bum if they have good footwork. Mayweather cut a few pounds he was probably 151-152 pounds and Nasukawa was like 137 and had less reach. Also its easy to think you are out of boxing distance until you fight someone who can feint and set traps. Some of that shit Mayweather did where he slowed his movements to disrupt Nasukawa's timing was incredible.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:31 pm
by asdfghjkl
https://youtu.be/c5BNOtbKNoI

Everything about the fight was extremely fake and if this pull back tap punch with no foot pivot/hip torque followed by the head going the opposite direction it is supposed to go when you get punched (bad acting) followed by the floppy fish drama dance...I just don't know what to tell you people. I've lost faith in mmalinker today.

Also tenshin would throw an exhibition match for money/yakuza easily. Who wouldn't.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:50 pm
by PBells
asdfghjkl wrote:Also tenshin would throw an exhibition match for money/yakuza easily. Who wouldn't.


Sure, but what would the point of that be? This is a one-off by Floyd, wouldn't it make more sense to fix it for Tenshin so they can make more money off his future appearances?

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:58 pm
by asdfghjkl
PBells wrote:
asdfghjkl wrote:Also tenshin would throw an exhibition match for money/yakuza easily. Who wouldn't.


Sure, but what would the point of that be? This is a one-off by Floyd, wouldn't it make more sense to fix it for Tenshin so they can make more money off his future appearances?


HAHAHAHAHA really man....c'mon.

You think money Mayweather would take any amount of money to fake lose.

NOT A CHANCE. I'm sure they pitched the idea and floyd laughed his ass off at the idea.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:09 pm
by JTuck34
I voted yes I'm a moron.

I don't see anything off here at all. That right clipped his forehead and hurt him VERY badly, but he had an excellent poker face. Step-in left hand finishes the job.

This seems pretty clear cut for me.

I'll bet you thought the Daley/Diaz TKO was also faked? Dude backed up from the combo and took the weirdest fall I've ever seen. If you strike behind the ear or anywhere around that area, you are in fact targeting what is called the cochlea.

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This cochlea is filled with a liquid that transfers vibrations into electrical signals which provides your sense of hearing. Also, (and more importantly here) there are little organs connected to the cochlea that provide your sense of balance. The vestibule and the something else I can't remember.







But hey, what the fuck does science know? You've had two muay thai fights.

Bonus gif :pointdown:

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Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:13 pm
by asdfghjkl
JTuck34 wrote:I voted yes I'm a moron.

I don't see anything off here at all. That right clipped his forehead and hurt him VERY badly, but he had an excellent poker face. Step-in left hand finishes the job.

This seems pretty clear cut for me.

I'll bet you thought the Daley/Diaz TKO was also faked? Dude backed up from the combo and took the weirdest fall I've ever seen. If you strike behind the ear or anywhere around that area, you are in fact targeting what is called the cochlea.

Image

This cochlea is filled with a liquid that transfers vibrations into electrical signals which provides your sense of hearing. Also, (and more importantly here) there are little organs connected to the cochlea that provide your sense of balance. The vestibule and the something else I can't remember.







But hey, what the fuck does science know? You've had two muay thai fights.

Bonus gif :pointdown:

Spoiler:
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Diaz clearly threw way more into that punch with an mma glove. His body was turned in with the punch and rolled his shoulder over and continued to drive his fist through his head...not just a little tap on the top of the head pull back punch with a boxing glove. No comparison.

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:37 pm
by PBells
asdfghjkl wrote:HAHAHAHAHA really man....c'mon.

You think money Mayweather would take any amount of money to fake lose.

NOT A CHANCE. I'm sure they pitched the idea and floyd laughed his ass off at the idea.


Exactly my point. The only way this fight being fixed makes any sense didn't happen. :idea:

Re: Poll: Are you a moron?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:52 pm
by Asso
JTuck34 wrote:I voted yes I'm a moron.

I don't see anything off here at all. That right clipped his forehead and hurt him VERY badly, but he had an excellent poker face. Step-in left hand finishes the job.

This seems pretty clear cut for me.

I'll bet you thought the Daley/Diaz TKO was also faked? Dude backed up from the combo and took the weirdest fall I've ever seen. If you strike behind the ear or anywhere around that area, you are in fact targeting what is called the cochlea.

Image

This cochlea is filled with a liquid that transfers vibrations into electrical signals which provides your sense of hearing. Also, (and more importantly here) there are little organs connected to the cochlea that provide your sense of balance. The vestibule and the something else I can't remember.







But hey, what the fuck does science know? You've had two muay thai fights.

Bonus gif :pointdown:

Spoiler:
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