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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby ryyonvin » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:04 pm

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agonzalez1 wrote:if you get your information on the world from a guitar magazine, that's pretty sad

its tom morello the guitar player from rage against the machine dudemanbro were you serious?

i dont know about you but i grew up poor in the ghetto where that qoute prettymuch describes my life


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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Silverblunt » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:25 pm

OK - I didnt want to start a new topic and im sure agonzalez1 will find this post and debate it. :D

Agon I noticed you repeating the media praised thesis about these sub-prime loans being at the root of this economic collapse.

That is only half the story...or much less.

In June 2006 an unprecedented move by President George W. Bush was to give the National Director of Intelligence, John Negroponte, the authority to exempt "certain" Wall Street firms and banking giants from reporting their financial records to the Securities and Exchange Commission. It was this move which permitted everything that has happened over the last month. That move allowed smaller banks and investors to continue buying pigs (without lipstick) in a poke while average Americans were led to believe that everything was OK.


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The Republicans are throwing the election to the Democrats like it was a flaming bobcat on meth. I shudder to contemplate what might be left of the US economy by January.

The United States economy is being deliberately destroyed. The fact that it was Republican House members who blocked the bailout confirms that they are helping the Bush Administration complete its last mission before leaving office: the complete destruction of the American economy and the financial crippling of the American people.

I believe the intent is, and has been, to leave a newcomer African-American president with an economy on life support which will expire early in his watch. Every Obama campaign ad that now promises to "turn the economy around" only tightens the noose around his neck.

The subconscious "Jerome Corsi" message is, "Blame the blacks" next year when you get it that the Great Depression was a picnic compared to what is coming.

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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Edro_ownage » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:54 pm

obama petruzelli'd (the petruzelli that ko'd kimbo, not the one who was on tuf) their 2nd debate :lol:
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:37 am

Silverblunt wrote:OK - I didnt want to start a new topic and im sure agonzalez1 will find this post and debate it. :D

Agon I noticed you repeating the media praised thesis about these sub-prime loans being at the root of this economic collapse.

That is only half the story...or much less.

In June 2006 an unprecedented move by President George W. Bush was to give the National Director of Intelligence, John Negroponte, the authority to exempt "certain" Wall Street firms and banking giants from reporting their financial records to the Securities and Exchange Commission. It was this move which permitted everything that has happened over the last month. That move allowed smaller banks and investors to continue buying pigs (without lipstick) in a poke while average Americans were led to believe that everything was OK.


BTW:
The Republicans are throwing the election to the Democrats like it was a flaming bobcat on meth. I shudder to contemplate what might be left of the US economy by January.

The United States economy is being deliberately destroyed. The fact that it was Republican House members who blocked the bailout confirms that they are helping the Bush Administration complete its last mission before leaving office: the complete destruction of the American economy and the financial crippling of the American people.

I believe the intent is, and has been, to leave a newcomer African-American president with an economy on life support which will expire early in his watch. Every Obama campaign ad that now promises to "turn the economy around" only tightens the noose around his neck.

The subconscious "Jerome Corsi" message is, "Blame the blacks" next year when you get it that the Great Depression was a picnic compared to what is coming.

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oh you know it...but i'm not going to disagree. Find that interesting....read on my friend.

Bush was never a conservative. Bottom line. He's a globalist. Democrats are for bigger government. When you combine the two along with enough pork...you'll get the RINOs (Republicans in name only) to expand the power of government for differnet reasons but with the same outcome.

You saw conservatives still vote down this stupid bailout that was 700 billion explode to 850 billion. Ron Paul for example, voted no (I agree with him on everything except the war on terrorism).

I think it's pretty low to call those that oppose Obama as racists. That was Obama's false dillema/scare tactic. http://genycon.blogspot.com/2008/08/oba ... awman.html

It is funny that the author of the blog says corsi has an unconscious "blame the blacks" attitude...yet the author speaks of "tightening a noose" around Obama's neck. That is despicable.

I dont think anyone is throwing the election. This is a democrat year...there are record lows for Bush's approval (yet even lower for congress - why we have 2 SENATORS running for president is beyond me) it is his 2nd term and we just had a republican congress go into the minority after running it for nearly 15 years.

The Republicans and Bush are not out to destroy the economy...the power that has been granted to the beaurocracy is unfounded...do you honestly think that in a Democrat administration that that power will be relenquished?

Obama still will enact his policies of tax and spend during a recession (as will McCain...just less so), will increase the power of government - which has just seized property rights beyond eminent domain, and will dictate to citizens who can make what.

His is a record of leftist ideals, socialist thinking, and associations contra to any sort of limited-government.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:42 am

Edro_ownage wrote:obama petruzelli'd (the petruzelli that ko'd kimbo, not the one who was on tuf) their 2nd debate :lol:


The spin is "Obama didn't have to win" therefore he won....ummm what?

first debate was "Obama isn't good on foreign policy anyways" therefore he won....mmmmkay.

the VP debate was "Biden is experienced and knows the issues" therefore he wins.....say that again?

Does anyone else see the bull there?

They tout that for days and days so you'll believe what they say.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:49 am

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Edro_ownage wrote:obama petruzelli'd (the petruzelli that ko'd kimbo, not the one who was on tuf) their 2nd debate :lol:


The spin is "Obama didn't have to win" therefore he won....ummm what?

first debate was "Obama isn't good on foreign policy anyways" therefore he won....mmmmkay.

the VP debate was "Biden is experienced and knows the issues" therefore he wins.....say that again?

Does anyone else see the bull there?

They tout that for days and days so you'll believe what they say.

who cares?



Obviously not you...

I did find a good Guitar tutorial for you if you want.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby chadjohn24 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:34 am

I like how if you don't want Obama in the white house you are a racists. Total bullshit, I just disagree with his left wing policies. Put Herman Cain up there and I would vote for him in a minute. He makes more sense than anybody out there and he is blacker than Obama will ever be.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Smith » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:01 am

Burnz stop spamming this topic. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. Remember the discussion mods had with you a while back or your last account being banned?
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:31 am

I watched the debate for maybe 10 minutes. As soon as I heard Obama talk about preemptive war I went into a blind rage and started breaking everything in my house because I came to the realization that no matter who is elected absolutely nothing will change. We will still have troops spread all over the world instead of protecting our borders, we will still have a very substantial income tax with a very insubstantial Social Security program, new laws will keep getting passed daily that infinge on our personal freedoms, and the class divide will keep getting larger.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Jim Hellen » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:53 am

I thoguht McCain won the debate, and his last answer was a lot better of a message for our country than Obama's, basically Obama says the American dream is to rise up on welfare (off the backs of the middle class) and what McCain says is to stay tough no matter what and eventually pull through. I really hope people can see through the bullshit and we get the right guy in office, McCain.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:19 am

Jim Hellen wrote:I thoguht McCain won the debate, and his last answer was a lot better of a message for our country than Obama's, basically Obama says the American dream is to rise up on welfare (off the backs of the middle class) and what McCain says is to stay tough no matter what and eventually pull through. I really hope people can see through the bullshit and we get the right guy in office, McCain.



You meant Ron Paul right? :) I'm sure of it.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:14 pm

THEEBURNZ wrote:
Smith wrote:Burnz stop spamming this topic. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. Remember the discussion mods had with you a while back or your last account being banned?

im not spamming your just out to get me it was a well out conversation



I think you only grew half a brain in the womb if you think that was a "well out conversation". Whatever the hell that means. As Smith said if you do not have anything to add to the topic then stay out of it.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:26 pm

THEEBURNZ wrote:
and what does your post have to do with the topic wouldnt that be spamming?



Taking into consideration that you have more posts in a little over a month than I have in over a year, I would hardly be labeled a spammer.


Is anyone other than me voting for a third party candidate or writing someone in?
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Jim Hellen » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:38 pm

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Jim Hellen wrote:I thoguht McCain won the debate, and his last answer was a lot better of a message for our country than Obama's, basically Obama says the American dream is to rise up on welfare (off the backs of the middle class) and what McCain says is to stay tough no matter what and eventually pull through. I really hope people can see through the bullshit and we get the right guy in office, McCain.



You meant Ron Paul right? :) I'm sure of it.



haha I actually don't mind Ron Paul
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:46 pm

Jim Hellen wrote:
detfilteg wrote:
Jim Hellen wrote:I thoguht McCain won the debate, and his last answer was a lot better of a message for our country than Obama's, basically Obama says the American dream is to rise up on welfare (off the backs of the middle class) and what McCain says is to stay tough no matter what and eventually pull through. I really hope people can see through the bullshit and we get the right guy in office, McCain.



You meant Ron Paul right? :) I'm sure of it.



haha I actually don't mind Ron Paul



Neither do I, I just wish he would have gotten more press during the primaries. Some of his writing has been posted on news websites since we have had this economic trouble though. If only people would have listened when he was still in the running.
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