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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Iceman54 » Mon May 18, 2020 9:11 pm

I gotta say, im impressed.

For years I have lurked this thread just hearing you guys out and keeping my opinions to myself. But this time, i noticed something....Productive dialouge.

Most of these debates im catching up on ( while emotional and insult ridden) are also reasonably fair and informative. Were not all supposed to agree- thats the point! Its about exchanges ideas and finding reasonable compromise.

Special shout out to Meowsicle ! Well articulated man

Now, back at eachothers throats!!


EDIT - more caught up now, and I spoke too soon :lol: Still clowns
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Iceman54 » Mon May 18, 2020 10:17 pm

https://youtu.be/1v7o_6uI9R0
I already know 1000% how everyone is going to respond to this... Just posting to watch the dumpster fire
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Tue May 19, 2020 2:17 am

Iceman54 wrote:https://youtu.be/1v7o_6uI9R0
I already know 1000% how everyone is going to respond to this... Just posting to watch the dumpster fire



Police handling a suspicious situation, didn't kill anyone for no reason. I have no issue with it.

Ahmaud should have kept his cool more.

The failed taser was hilarious.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue May 19, 2020 3:34 am

I'm sure he was just out jogging again back in 2017. Clearly in the right clothes for it. I wonder where his hammer is and if he's 87 miles from home again
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Iceman54 » Tue May 19, 2020 2:28 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.

*Four ruffians break into my house.
*"What the devil?" as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.
*Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
*Draw my pistol on the second man, misses him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog.
*I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot.
*"Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel sets off car alarms.
*Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.
*Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up.

Just as the founding fathers intended.


One of the hardest ive ever laughed in my life was reading this.

Thanks, KOP.
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MMALINKER? more like NGRFGTLINKER
Well in that case, fuck him, his wife, and his kid. :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue May 19, 2020 2:45 pm

Iceman54 wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.

*Four ruffians break into my house.
*"What the devil?" as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.
*Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
*Draw my pistol on the second man, misses him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog.
*I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot.
*"Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel sets off car alarms.
*Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.
*Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up.

Just as the founding fathers intended.


One of the hardest ive ever laughed in my life was reading this.

Thanks, KOP.

Welcome man and thank you. I'm quite proud of that post :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue May 19, 2020 3:05 pm



Spoiler:
Damn man. In Trump's America a black man can't even jog out of a store with a stolen TV without being arrested.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Tue May 19, 2020 5:41 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:

Spoiler:
Damn man. In Trump's America a black man can't even jog out of a store with a stolen TV without being arrested.



Again, police dealt with a situation without committing murder.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed May 20, 2020 12:04 am

willmma wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:

Spoiler:
Damn man. In Trump's America a black man can't even jog out of a store with a stolen TV without being arrested.



Again, police dealt with a situation without committing murder.

Open Carry is legal in Georgia. So is citizens arrest. Shooting someone punching you in the head and trying to take your gun is also...
Spoiler:
legal.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Iceman54 » Wed May 20, 2020 12:09 am

willmma wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:

Spoiler:
Damn man. In Trump's America a black man can't even jog out of a store with a stolen TV without being arrested.



Again, police dealt with a situation without committing murder.

Right, and we all need to be real with ourselves. Legal, and " correct" are not the same thing. In times of moral debate, its important to remember we all have different moral values. Moral values, in turn- can be validated or diminished by congruence with local legislation. In short, we ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO agree on these things. That IS our only checks and balance system- civil disagreement.

In the case of Ahmaud Arbery- I find myself conflicted at the present time- as in reality, we all should. Just because your, or my, instinctual precedents may not apply- its simply wrong to point blame over a disagreement in honest, moral views. At this time, all we know is what we see in the video tape- and what we can assume from reports. In fairness, lets recap (please ANYBODY object if I miss a point, genuinely trying to be fair)

1) Arbery is running toward the left side of a truck parked at an intersection.

2) As Arberry instantly focuses(body and attention) to the right side of the truck, A scuffle ensues between Arbery, and the driver of said truck, Gregory McMichael. Another man, Gregorys father ( Travis McMichael ) sits in the truck bed with a handgun.

3) WHILE WILLINGLY ENGAGING IN THIS SCUFFLE, Gregory is under the correct assumption that Arbery has a criminal history. He also assumes Arbery is fleeing the scene of a crime. Info assumed to be provided by Travis.

4) Travis (at this time) has an established trust in regards to withholding order and civility within this community. The local authority have been on record acknowledging his positive contributions.

5) While Ahmaud had his hands on Gregorys gun, Gregory fired 2 ( sounded like 3 over here) shots. Arbery goes down.


Would i conduct myself in this manor ? - Hell no
Would I hope my neighbor conducts themself in this manor? - Hell no
Would I raise children to honor this behavior - Hell no
Do i think pre conceived ideas about Ahmaud Arbery were the partial cause of his death? - Hell yes

However on tape, looked legal.

Unfortunately, im leaning towards agreement with KOP. As an American, I know the rules and agreed to them. These men have their say in court, and furthermore, an outside observation leads me to thinking that by the word of law, they probably shouldnt be convinced. Personally, KOP I think you know youre being provocative to an extent.. But this is the internet and you can say what you want :|


This of course leads us to the real questions. Do we agree with this? Is this how criminal cases should be tried and observed? Should there be a " real life" incentive to trials. Personally, I have no idea. Im not educated enough to go much further in.

What I am at least partially educated in, is Mental Health. Arbery clearly suffers from low frustration tolerance(to say the least). He clearly suffers from some sort of speech disorder. Respectively- he clearly has a sub 100 Iq, and clearly suffers from some sort of intellectual disability. His processing skills are potentially lower than most humans can imagine.

It breaks my heart that Ahmaud Arbery died. That was NOT correct. I dont care if you think he was a good person or not, he deserved to live. This next part is totally my opinion- but if Gregory had even 1/2 of the training and experience his father did, Arbery would be alive today. His father looked visibly upset at the events, and appeared hesitant to pull the trigger himself.

Its my personal belief that we would all be happier, and more prosperous with understanding, and acceptance. However nothing in the laws dictate that.

Sad times for a lot of us.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed May 20, 2020 12:17 am

Dude has been convicted of theft and unlawful carry before. Multiple videos from different times show him trespassing/burglarizing houses in the community. You don't go jogging 87 miles from home with a hammer in your hands while being caught on video inside other peoples houses. And the final fact of the matter was had he not gone full retard and attacked a man that had a gun, assaulting and grabbing for his weapon, he'd still be alive. Self correcting problem. Don't feel sorry for him at all. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

The fact that the mainstream media are all 100% dogpiling on with this "innocent jogger" narrative is sickening and ridiculous. Had the race roles been reversed this wouldn't have been more than local news.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Iceman54 » Wed May 20, 2020 12:26 am

Not trying to start shit here, KOP.

Would you agree, that with the same training his father had, Gregory wouldn't have wound up shooting Arbery?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed May 20, 2020 12:35 am

Iceman54 wrote:Not trying to start shit here, KOP.

Would you agree, that with the same training his father had, Gregory wouldn't have wound up shooting Arbery?

From what I've seen no. As a cop and da prosecutor, Travis would be well adjusted to shooting a man who charges him, punches him in the head and grabs for his gun.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Wed May 20, 2020 3:22 am

Trump deployed over 40,000 National Guard members to states to help in coronavirus relief.

After 90 days of service the guards would qualify for several retirement benefits.

Being the president who loves the army, Trump plans halt to National Guard deployments before retirement benefits kick in. At 89 days.

Tremendous Trump.


1.5 million infections
100k dead
15% unemployment
Economy in shambles
40k screwed over national guards

And he will probably win again.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

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