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EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:god damn.... Murder is making all of you look like proper fools
willmma wrote:EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:god damn.... Murder is making all of you look like proper fools
Frag I expect better from you than to side with a dumbass like Murder.
Murder keeps moving the goal posts. Firs,t he argued that this is not the most rigorous inspection program ever.
IAEA, the UN Nuclear watchdog says that based on numbers and technology, it is .
Then he argued not all facilities are inspected, which is dumb.
IAEA, says they are
Now he's saying not all facilities have 24 hour surveillance.
He keeps moving posts everytime he's proven wrong to declare victory. I'm done with him. He's a bigot and a racist and no matter how much anyone argues with him, this will remain an Obama deal.
And the proof he offers? Well prepare yourself for this double whamy, one-two combo: Trump proved it's a shaky deal because he pulled out of it. And the Chicago Police has a mission statement.
willmma wrote:Israeli sources are biased and irrelevant.
It would be as bad as using Iranian sources.
I quoted the IAEA you quoted Haaretz
blackmetalcarson wrote:I'm just going to say this:
I don't agree with Murderface on a lot of what he posts, but if your best rebuttal is to attack the legitimacy of the source itself rather than posting another, it makes you look weak.
blackmetalcarson wrote:I'm just going to say this:
I don't agree with Murderface on a lot of what he posts, but if your best rebuttal is to attack the legitimacy of the source itself rather than posting another, it makes you look weak.
willmma wrote:blackmetalcarson wrote:I'm just going to say this:
I don't agree with Murderface on a lot of what he posts, but if your best rebuttal is to attack the legitimacy of the source itself rather than posting another, it makes you look weak.
The problem is I've been responding to Murder for a few days now, he doesn't actually respond to any of the facts I give him, he just gives me links to something somebody somewhere said, and now I seem to be obliged to respond everything anybody said.
The IAEA has no skin in the game. The are the ONLY and MOST objective party with actual knowledge of the situation.
They said this is the most comprehensive inspection ever. So, when Murder gives me a quote from some Joe blow saying it's not. I compare, is that source more reputable than the IAEA? If not then I've already shown that what Joe Blow said is wrong.
Israel on the other hand is a VERY interested party. They have a ton of skin in the game.
Netanyahu and his lackies have been telling us for years and years and years that Iran is months away from creating a bomb. Netanyahu would love nothing more than America wage war against Iran - all blood and treasure spent fighting Israel's enemy would be American.
It is biased and not accurate. For example, just last month Netanyahu, at the UN no less, claimed Israel has intelligence on some secret nuclear facility. Turns out to be more Israeli propaganda.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2018 ... -warehouse
So when Murder tells me an Israeli guy says inspections are weak. Why should I waste my time? Murder will do this everyday and twice on sunday, regardless of how many times I show him proof from the IAEA.
Sources do matter. How credible are these sources:
Ayatollah: Nuclear weapons for none. http://english.khamenei.ir/news/4749/Nu ... -Ayatollah
Ayatolah: Khamenei Says Iran Nuclear Weapons are a U.S. 'myth'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2RPhGzZzR8
Iran nuclear head: denies concealing nuclear weapons. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/iran ... 3kbw36n7xw
I can spend all year rebutting Murder's Israeli sources with Iranian sources. This is bullshit.
Lastly.... Murder is a biased, racist, brainwashed fool; and sometimes I wonder why I even bother. It's not like we are having an honest debate.
blackmetalcarson wrote:willmma wrote:blackmetalcarson wrote:I'm just going to say this:
I don't agree with Murderface on a lot of what he posts, but if your best rebuttal is to attack the legitimacy of the source itself rather than posting another, it makes you look weak.
The problem is I've been responding to Murder for a few days now, he doesn't actually respond to any of the facts I give him, he just gives me links to something somebody somewhere said, and now I seem to be obliged to respond everything anybody said.
The IAEA has no skin in the game. The are the ONLY and MOST objective party with actual knowledge of the situation.
They said this is the most comprehensive inspection ever. So, when Murder gives me a quote from some Joe blow saying it's not. I compare, is that source more reputable than the IAEA? If not then I've already shown that what Joe Blow said is wrong.
Israel on the other hand is a VERY interested party. They have a ton of skin in the game.
Netanyahu and his lackies have been telling us for years and years and years that Iran is months away from creating a bomb. Netanyahu would love nothing more than America wage war against Iran - all blood and treasure spent fighting Israel's enemy would be American.
It is biased and not accurate. For example, just last month Netanyahu, at the UN no less, claimed Israel has intelligence on some secret nuclear facility. Turns out to be more Israeli propaganda.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2018 ... -warehouse
So when Murder tells me an Israeli guy says inspections are weak. Why should I waste my time? Murder will do this everyday and twice on sunday, regardless of how many times I show him proof from the IAEA.
Sources do matter. How credible are these sources:
Ayatollah: Nuclear weapons for none. http://english.khamenei.ir/news/4749/Nu ... -Ayatollah
Ayatolah: Khamenei Says Iran Nuclear Weapons are a U.S. 'myth'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2RPhGzZzR8
Iran nuclear head: denies concealing nuclear weapons. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/iran ... 3kbw36n7xw
I can spend all year rebutting Murder's Israeli sources with Iranian sources. This is bullshit.
Lastly.... Murder is a biased, racist, brainwashed fool; and sometimes I wonder why I even bother. It's not like we are having an honest debate.
Just so we know, I'm NOT disagreeing with this last line here.
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