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[bwawm]

^ You think illegal immigration did more damage to California than Hollywood's unchecked pedophilia/sexual degeneracy and unchecked political corruption?

Absolutely. From what I've seen the pedophilia thing was mainly hollywood/elites. Small segment. Sexual Degeneracy? Yeah but that's everywhere at this point. Illegal immigration is what drastically changed the state. I mean....they went from electing Ronald Reagan(who I by no means think is the greatest president ever by far) to what we have now...Did all those people from the 70's and 80's just magically change their views over the next 40 years? Or were they replaced and out reproduced? The answer is quite simple.

And as for the clown below you linking lolbertarian "thinktank" articles, believing i'm on welfare, and claiming California is doing so great
I was a libertarian about 8 years ago. The Ron/Rand Paul type. And while I still sympathize with some of their positions- anti war being chief among them, they do jack all to recognize "free trade" is nothing but a lie that has hurt the United States 2nd only to illegal immigration....and that their libertarian ideals don't survive in a borderless country where people who don't share your ideals pore in, breed like rabits, and get on your welfare state.

I work for a living son . And I've never been in debt in my life. KoP is always in the black baby. I'm imagining you're quite the opposite of me in this regard.

California...geez where do I start.... They are such an economic powerhouse apparently yet had to beg Trump for help during their last forest fire outbreak because they allocated all of their money to Liberal bullshit. The socialist peoples republic of Cuckfornia also has some of (if not the most ) restrictive gun laws in the country. If it's so great there then why are white california liberals fleeing to places like Texas to escape the extremely high cost of living, rampant crime, whole cities filled with human feces on every street corner and ridiculous taxes? Oh and how dare they flee the "diversity" they claim to cherish! Was extremely entertaining watching them meltdown when trump threatened to send illegals to their beloved "sanctuary cities" DIVERSITY FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME! *flees into gated all white communities*

Sure CATO is totally a 'liberal think tank'

......meanwhile, in Cato's about us:
Cato Institute is a public policy research organization — a think tank — dedicated to the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace.

Oh to live in a world were every single source that doesn't feed into what you want to hear is liberal cuckery

Yes the answer is 'quite simple' ....its called jerrymandering fool California still has a large right leaning population but its voting power has been crippled by the left. Its the same thing they do in TX but I think TX is more conservative as a whole than CA is liberal so the redistricting may not be as extensive (from what I understand but I may not be 100% accurate on that).

You really need to make shit up to hate on CA? You've labelled me a lefty and even I don't need to make shit up to hate on CA-plenty of ammunition from where I'm sitting!

Shit I will be the first to agree with you on Californians constantly jumping on a high horse and acting like every other state is backwards when their neighborhoods and school districts are JUST as segregated as everyone else's. The hypocrisy and holier than though attitude is obnoxious and baseless. No arguments from me on that.
I agree with you on the gun laws as well-banning guns seems, to me, to be treating a symptom as opposed to fixing the problem and (as you can tell from this exchange) I am absolutely not with that shit. Right or left-if it doesn't fix the problem I don't support it. California has the most deaths by gun of any state in the country and, while the rate is pretty low, if the laws aren't effective they shouldn't be in place. I don't know much about annual changes since they put the tougher laws in place but I can't imagine its that great or they would have been yanking their dicks all over the news talking about how they've "solved the gun violence problem."

The feces stuff tho...really? My aunt down in Dallas was saying the same thing (she said the whole city reeked of urine) and I was shocked that a major US city would allow that. Had to go to SF a few months back and it turns out yall were both full o shit *pun intended* because I didn't see a single turd and barely smelled any piss (definitely had to step over a piss puddle at one point ) Where do yall get this shit? conspiracytheoriesforretardedconservatives.com?

Don't love CA all you want but to act like its in shambles/covered in poo just makes you look desperate and uninformed (which I would imagine you are).

State Taxes Collected per capita TX: $4,000
Income per capita TX: $46,745 (8.5%)

State Taxes collected per capita CA: $6,000
Income per capita CA: $52,651 (11.3%)

Whaaaa? It takes money to run a state??????

The poverty level in TX is higher than CA even though TX doesn't have income tax, cucky liberal policies and poop everywhere?????


Nuance homie. Nobody figured out you can magically run a state without taxing people and no one should have to point that out to you.

The rich/powerful folks benefit from both sets of rules and folks like you thinking one side has all the answers is how this continues. It's the same game with slightly different rules but, don't kid yourself, these rules were made for them-in both scenerios. The left and the right are both full of shit and quick to pander to whatever loonies will elect them to office.

But its probably just all immigrants fault huh?

You have provided no data. You have provided no logic. Call me what you want but we all know whose pulling conclusions out of their ass.

So le brainwashed

[bwawm]

I love how every couple of years the mainstream media and left lockstep in uniform to the beat of some dead illegal kid drowned on some beach/river shore. Expert level propaganda. Surely Trump is to blame! Not her father or anything. Never let a good fact get in the way of your feelings.

Spoiler:

if the kid was white nobody on the left or in the mainstream media would care...at all...ever

Ita hard to believe anything in the media anymore hell they could have stage it, I hope to God they didnt it was a horrible picture but if they did nothing would have happened just like the Smollet BS, he just said ,"We'll get them next time" WTF ever happened to accountability but it really doesnt matter when our whole gevernment can lie to the public about 911 invade Iraq and now do the same to Iran. There is no more right or left just the asleep and the woke. Don't waste your time arguing over which piece of shit tastes worse, quit eating the shit they are feeding us all together, that includes you too Bawawnn.

Spoiler:

lolol

when I see someone diverting a conversation to their own (partisan) agenda at the expense of recognizing the actual problems I feel its worth interjecting. In my mind 'woke' is addressing problems without partisan/personal bias and 'asleep' is following partisan agenda's without engaging/researching the topic.

Am I being asleep for calling out a dudes partisan led ignorance? If I call out the right does that mean I'm on the left? Can I support easier access to guns in CA and not think California's cities are covered in poop?

Big questions....


On topic:
From what I understand the mother/wife was actually on the mexican side watching

Dad got daughter over safely, went back for his wife, the daughter panicked and dove back in and they both drowned while he was trying to save her...definitely sad, definitely not Trump or anyone else's fault on the US side. It's a somewhat popular crossing method, from what I understand-just a sad picture to see.

[KingOfPancrase]

Wow...this dude really thinks "jerrymandering" is the reason right leaning politics has been crippled in California. Stopped reading there.... Both parties jerrymander. It is in no semblance shape or form the reason. Might read the rest later.... I imagine it's just as retarded as the first part.

[bwawm]

I'm waiting patiently for Bwann's carefully PC crafted response, I think KOP's fire response might have esposed a Linker plant, can't figure out which faction he is with yet, globe earth society/NASA, deep state illuminati, gay mafia or the lizard people. Anyway I smells a rat.

Spoiler:

We talking about me?

actually its: Deep State Gay Illuminati Mafia (NASA division)

Why am I PC? Because I don't blame immigrants for every problem or because I pointed out CA isn't really in shambles? Is it because I referenced studies or don't call people kikes?

lol yall are too much

[bwawm]

Wow...this dude really thinks "jerrymandering" is the reason right leaning politics has been crippled in California. Stopped reading there.... Both parties jerrymander. It is in no semblance shape or form the reason. Might read the rest later.... I imagine it's just as retarded as the first part.

Do you... know...what jerrymandering is? It's a tactic of dividing voting populations to suppress a certain party...

You should really look into this stuff before you start talking out of your ass man:

After the 1980 census California became entitled to 45 congressional districts, a growth of two.[4] Democrats controlled both houses of the legislature and the governorship but were feeling vulnerable after former Governor Reagan had won California by a landslide in the 1980 presidential election. Democratic Congressman Phillip Burton and new State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown devised a redistricting plan that would result in five new safe Democratic seats.[5] Congressman Burton would boast that the bizarrely shaped map, which included a 385-sided district, was "My contribution to modern art".[6] Reacting to what was called "one of the most notorious gerrymanders" of the decade,[7] Republicans successfully placed a veto referendum on the primary ballot and California voters overwhelmingly rejected the legislature's redistricting plans in the June 1982 election, the same election that enacted the California Constitution's Victim's Bill of Rights.[8]

A majority of the California Supreme Court justices, however, had been appointed by Governor Jerry Brown and a sharply fractured court ordered the rejected districts to be used in the November election because only it was "practicable".[9] Democrats won 60% of the congressional seats despite only taking 49.9% of the statewide vote.[10] Democrats still lost the statewide elections, losing the governorship and incumbent Governor Jerry Brown losing his U.S. Senate bid to San Diego Mayor Pete Wilson. Governor Brown responded by calling an extraordinary legislative session, amending a previously passed bill with the redistricting plan that had just been rejected by the electorate, and signing the redistricting plan into law hours before being replaced by Republican George Deukmejian.[11]

[PBells]

Wow, look at how crippled Republican politics is in California! It's like Conservatives don't even exist. So oppressed!

And why are we mourning California in the first place? Shouldn't the "Muh 'Murca!" crowd be more upset at New York?

[bwawm]

Wow, look at how crippled Republican politics is in California! It's like Conservatives don't even exist. So oppressed!

And why are we mourning California in the first place? Shouldn't the "Muh 'Murca!" crowd be more upset at New York?

Actually, when I was looking into this there were articles about CA going from worst to first so apparently CA was much worse but they redrew the districts a couple years back to make things a bit more even.

Still has a reputation as the most liberal of the states tho (and apparently the least hygenic)

Not sure why I jumped into that topic honestly probably just another excuse to talk shit to KOP for spouting off propoganda he hasn't even looked into

[KingOfPancrase]

You guy's are too fucking easy. I think we're forgetting a little something here...uhhh namely.... POPULATION DENSITY.


Wow...it's almost as if there are way more people in the blue areas than the red ones? Look at that shit Jimbo it's quacking quackers!

Spoiler:

You two really played yourselves. I expect it from bwamm but come on Pbells....cease and desist.
I wonder what the majority ethnic background of those areas that vote so heavily blue and are so heavily populated are?

Thanks for helping prove my point. Checkmate fools.

[PBells]

Population density?! You mean like every other state in the country?! No way!

You still didn't answer my question about why we're supposed to mourn California

[KingOfPancrase]

Population density?! You mean like every other state in the country?! No way!

You still didn't answer my question about why we're supposed to mourn California

I guess mourn for what it once was? Like pre 90's? And my point that you helped me made is pretty clear and you know it.
The heaviest populated areas in California vote democrat. These voters are by a large margin majority hispanic. So yes those red areas are indeed oppressed in the sense of though the map looks closer to 60-40 it's really way more skewed to the democrats.

AOC is doing a great job driving out the wealthy and businesses by trying to tax them to death. Is that what you are referencing in New York?

As far as modern California goes? Let it burn and all the Feinsteins with it.

[PBells]

Maybe if the counties had to compete for some reason, but I'm sure there are Republican governments in north California that aren't affected by what happens in Los Angeles county. Most of the BS (and I agree that it's BS) is in the Bay Area or down south and IMO inconsequential to the rest of the state.

[KingOfPancrase]

The democrats speaking spanish during their first "debate"to pander to illegal aliens....who they want to allow to vote with a driver's license...even though they shouldn't be allowed to get a driver's license.....Wow. The hypocrisy. They claim to be against the imaginary foreign interference in 2016....and yet want to allow 20 million foreign nationals to vote in american elections I wonder which way their intended audience will vote? HONK FUCKING HONK.

Spoiler:

I don't even know if Beta O Dork was the most cringe worthy person on stage....it's like they were all competing to be the most "woke" far left ass clown.

Man. Pure cringe

[KingOfPancrase]

Maybe if the counties had to compete for some reason, but I'm sure there are Republican governments in north California that aren't affected by what happens in Los Angeles county. Most of the BS (and I agree that it's BS) is in the Bay Area or down south and IMO inconsequential to the rest of the state.

That's just simply not true dude....the policies of the state affect every county/area in the state....plus all their electoral votes going toward the democrats every election for the longest time. There's only so much local government can do....for example they still have to abide by California's ridiculous gun laws and taxes.

[KingOfPancrase]

[bwawm]

Population density?! You mean like every other state in the country?! No way!

You still didn't answer my question about why we're supposed to mourn California

I guess mourn for what it once was? Like pre 90's? And my point that you helped me made is pretty clear and you know it.
The heaviest populated areas in California vote democrat. These voters are by a large margin majority hispanic. So yes those red areas are indeed oppressed in the sense of though the map looks closer to 60-40 it's really way more skewed to the democrats.

AOC is doing a great job driving out the wealthy and businesses by trying to tax them to death. Is that what you are referencing in New York?

As far as modern California goes? Let it burn and all the Feinsteins with it.

wtf? you think you are the first person to point out that rural areas vote red more than urban ones..?

I'm sure the 3% increase in Latino population in SF between 2010 and 1970 is DEFINITELY what makes them so blue

States with highest latino populations:
1. New Mexico 48% (DEMOCRAT)
2. Texas 39.1% (REPUBLICAN)
3. California 38.9% (DEMOCRAT)
4. Arizona 30.9% (REPUBLICAN)
5. Nevada- 28.5% (DEMOCRAT)

KOP: Oh dude, latino's vote blue dude-thats why California is blue, its the only way, OBVIOUSLY MAN!!!

Have yall ever kicked it with a Latino? Of all my Latino friends in Texas most of them were not down with gender fluidity, abortions or homosexuality-overall pretty conservative values/christian values.....the right has put these folks in a bind because they HAVE to vote democrat. Yall stop being so loud about deporting their family members and I think you'll find they naturally gravitate more to the red

Dem's aren't even an advocate for immigrants-most of the wall on the border: California. Most deportations by any president ever: democrat. They just do that shit on the low while yall are out here chanting 'BUILD THE WALL'

Yall are playing into the left's hand with the vocal anti immigrant stuff, that voter base would be up for grabs without yall handing it to the dems.

Went from 'white liberals in gated communities' to 'immigrants' being the cause of CA's cuckery in a real hurry I notice