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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby PBells » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:22 am

blackmetalcarson wrote:So when are we going to start putting anyone who isn't a white straight male into death camps? Also when is gay marriage getting repealed? The Don's been President for some time and a bunch of shit the liberals said he would do has not happened.


Turns out that the hysterical, vocal majority was wrong! Imagine that.

Hopefully the aftermath of how many years of Trump we get will be a rise in centrism and moderate politics. Perhaps people will see how tribalism from both sides does not work.

Somehow, somewhere, deep in my misanthropic heart that wants to just live underground and not interact with another human ever again still has some kind of hope. :angel:

#moderatewave2018
Or maybe #moderatewave2024
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby blackmetalcarson » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:36 pm

PBells wrote:
blackmetalcarson wrote:So when are we going to start putting anyone who isn't a white straight male into death camps? Also when is gay marriage getting repealed? The Don's been President for some time and a bunch of shit the liberals said he would do has not happened.


Turns out that the hysterical, vocal majority was wrong! Imagine that.

Hopefully the aftermath of how many years of Trump we get will be a rise in centrism and moderate politics. Perhaps people will see how tribalism from both sides does not work.

Somehow, somewhere, deep in my misanthropic heart that wants to just live underground and not interact with another human ever again still has some kind of hope. :angel:

#moderatewave2018
Or maybe #moderatewave2024


I relate to this more than you know. I wish I could publish my book so I could hopefully make millions and then never have to go to work again. :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:04 am




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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:06 pm

If you could choose between world peace and world domination,what would that be?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby exsanguinator » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 pm

EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:If you could choose between world peace and world domination,what would that be?


Let me answer your question, with another question! Chicken or the egg?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:03 am

exsanguinator wrote:
EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:If you could choose between world peace and world domination,what would that be?


Let me answer your question, with another question! Chicken or the egg?

Trump disarmed NK, brought China to their knees with the tariffs, proved the media was fake and still nothing has changed in any American's life because its all bullshit.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:58 am

Pat is always a good read.

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by Patrick J. Buchanan Posted on September 20, 2018

https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2 ... -the-west/


By the end of his second term, President Ronald Reagan, who had called the Soviet Union an "evil empire," was strolling through Red Square with Russians slapping him on the back.

Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive.

And how have we husbanded the fruits of our Cold War triumph?

This month, China’s leader-for-life Xi Jinping stood beside Vladimir Putin as 3,000 Chinese troops maneuvered with 300,000 Russians, 1,000 planes and 900 tanks in Moscow’s largest military exercise in 40 years.

An uncoded message to the West from the East.

Richard Nixon’s great achievement in bringing Peking in from the cold, and Reagan’s great achievement of ending the Cold War, are history.

Bolshevism may be dead, but Russian nationalism, awakened by NATO’s quick march to Russia’s ancient frontiers, is alive and well.

Russia appears to have given up on the West and accepted that its hopes for better times with President Donald Trump are not to be.

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley is berating Russia for secretly trading with North Korea in violation of U.N. sanctions, saying, "Lying, cheating, and rogue behavior have become the new norm of the Russian culture."

Cold wars don’t get much colder than defaming another country’s culture as morally debased.

The U.S. has also signaled that it may start supplying naval and anti-aircraft weaponry to Ukraine, as Russia is being warned to cease its inspections of ships passing from the Black Sea through the Kerch Strait into the Sea of Azov.

The three-mile-wide strait lies between Crimea and Kerch Peninsula. In Russia’s eyes, both banks of the strait are Russian national territory.

With U.S. backing, Ukraine has decided to build a naval base on the Sea of Azov to "create conditions for rebuffing the aggressive actions of the Russian Federation in this region."

Kiev has several patrol boats in the Sea of Azov, with a few more to be transferred there in coming months. Russia’s navy could sink those boats and wipe out that base in minutes.

Are we going to send our Navy across the Black Sea to protect Ukraine’s naval rights inside a sea that has been as historically Russian as the Chesapeake Bay is historically American?

Poland this week invited the U.S. to establish a major base on its soil, for which Poland would pay two billion dollars, to be called "Fort Trump."

Trump seemed to like the idea, and the name.

Yet, the Bush II decision to install a missile defense system in Poland brought a Kremlin counter-move: the installation of nuclear-capable Iskander cruise missiles in Kaliningrad, the former German territory on Poland’s northern border annexed by Stalin at the end of World War II.

In the Balkans, over Russian protests, the U.S. is moving to bring Macedonia into NATO. But before Macedonia can join, half its voters have to come out on Sept. 30 to approve a change in the nation’s name to North Macedonia. This is to mollify Greece, which claims the birthplace of Alexander the Great as it own.

Where are we going with all this?

With U.S. warships making regular visits into the Eastern Baltic and Black Sea, the possibility of a new base in Poland, and growing lethal aid to Ukraine to fight pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass and the Russian navy on the Sea of Azov, are we not crowding the Russians a bit?

Are we confident the Russians will always back down?

When Georgia, believing it could kick Russian peacekeepers out and re-annex its seceded province of South Ossetia, attacked in August 2008, the Russian Army came crashing in and ran the Georgians out in 48 hours.

George W. Bush wisely decided not to issue an ultimatum or send troops. He ignored the hawks in his own party who had helped goad him into the great debacle of his presidency: Iraq.

So, what exactly is the U.S. grand strategy with regard to Russia?

What might be called the McCain wing of the Republican Party has sought to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, which would make the containment of Russia America’s policy in perpetuity.

Are the American people aware of the costs and risks inherent in such a policy? What are the prospects of Russia yielding always to U.S. demands? And are we not today stretched awfully thin?

Our share of the global economy is much shrunken from Reagan’s time. Our deficit is approaching $1 trillion. Our debt is surging toward 100 percent of GDP. Entitlements are consuming our national wealth.

We are committed to containing the two other greatest powers, Russia and China. We are tied down militarily in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen, with the War Party beating the drums for another and larger war – with Iran. And we are sanctioning adversaries and allies for not following our leadership of the West and the world.

In looking at America’s global commitments, greatly expanded since our Cold War victory, one word come to mind: unsustainable.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of Churchill, Hitler, and “The Unnecessary War”: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World. To find out more about Patrick Buchanan and read features by other Creators writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Web page at www.creators.com.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:19 pm

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:39 pm

This Kavanaugh shit is beyond ridiculous. The republicans are tired of winning and resorting to their usual limp wristed slack jawed ways. They need to confirm this guy....holding this process up for retarded fake accusations and the republicans in congress are just going along with it...… spineless cowards.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:48 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:This Kavanaugh shit is beyond ridiculous. The republicans are tired of winning and resorting to their usual limp wristed slack jawed ways. They need to confirm this guy....holding this process up for retarded fake accusations and the republicans in congress are just going along with it...… spineless cowards.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby MiniMan » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:39 pm

EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:If you could choose between world peace and world domination,what would that be?


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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:57 am

“Hillary Clinton- Deposed for 11 hours...did not flinch

Brett Kavanaugh- Deposed for 20 minutes...can't stop crying.”


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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Mr Meow » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:45 am

bruins2012 wrote:“Hillary Clinton- Deposed for 11 hours...did not flinch

Brett Kavanaugh- Deposed for 20 minutes...can't stop crying.”


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Yeah....what a pussy for getting emotional over false rape accusations :lol: :lol:

Oh but I personally totally believe the validity of memories being unearthed via psychotherapy after over 30 years....i also believe in phrenology and lobotomies and other things people label as "outdated" and "pseudoscience"

Speaking of Hilary.....how many out of court rape cases did Bill settle because he was terrified how good the evidence would look in court against him? 4? 5? His accusers could actually come up with pesky details like "when" "where" "how" and "why" which seem to escape this Ford lady.

Amazing how liberals (not saying you specifically bruins but liberals in America in general) went from "If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find.” when describing Bill's accusers to somehow believing psychotherapy is a legitimate memory retrieval method and every woman should be believed until proven otherwise. :lol: Amazing.


This Kavanaugh BS is a partisan shit show and we all know it. I am not a fan of the guy at all but he is getting railroaded pretty hard here with flimsy "evidence" if one can even call it that.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby PBells » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:56 am

I find myself on the Republican side in this debacle. The woman couldn't remember anything but, because she cried, her testimony was "amazing," "powerful," and "brave." Huh?! And the prosecutor who is an expert on sex-crimes didn't ask a single sex-crime-related question. Farcical.

It's near impossible to substantiate something that happened 35 years ago, especially when the accuser can't remember anything and none of her witnesses corroborated any aspect of her story.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:25 am

Mr Meow wrote:
bruins2012 wrote:“Hillary Clinton- Deposed for 11 hours...did not flinch

Brett Kavanaugh- Deposed for 20 minutes...can't stop crying.”


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Yeah....what a pussy for getting emotional over false rape accusations :lol: :lol:

Oh but I personally totally believe the validity of memories being unearthed via psychotherapy after over 30 years....i also believe in phrenology and lobotomies and other things people label as "outdated" and "pseudoscience"

Speaking of Hilary.....how many out of court rape cases did Bill settle because he was terrified how good the evidence would look in court against him? 4? 5? His accusers could actually come up with pesky details like "when" "where" "how" and "why" which seem to escape this Ford lady.

Amazing how liberals (not saying you specifically bruins but liberals in America in general) went from "If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find.” when describing Bill's accusers to somehow believing psychotherapy is a legitimate memory retrieval method and every woman should be believed until proven otherwise. :lol: Amazing.


This Kavanaugh BS is a partisan shit show and we all know it. I am not a fan of the guy at all but he is getting railroaded pretty hard here with flimsy "evidence" if one can even call it that.

Some how Bill and Hilary are the media's darlings :lol: :lol:
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