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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:19 am

Barak roll is kinda funny.

I disagree with you Assassin..because no one really knows why they are voting for B.O.






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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby TheAssassin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:24 am

They're voting for him because he's different.
Or rather everyone thinks he's different.
That's what happened in Ukraine.
We had one Putin puppet using propaganda and everything and because people demonstrated they got the other guy.
Turns out the other guy was just a big talker.
I'd rather take a chance with the guy who says he'll change stuff, and risk that he won't, than get the guy who won't change stuff.

But hell, what do I know, I'm just a Canadian.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:29 am

Burnz = Honest...i'll give you that...

McCain has done a whole heck of a lot for this country, Palin has usurped her own party. McCain is decried by his own party because he is a different Republican.

Obama is the most unqualified, unvetted, unchallenged candidate ever. It's quite shocking.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby TheAssassin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:30 am

agonzalez1 wrote:Burnz = Honest...i'll give you that...

McCain has done a whole heck of a lot for this country, Palin has usurped her own party. McCain is decried by his own party because he is a different Republican.

Obama is the most unqualified, unvetted, unchallenged candidate ever. It's quite shocking.


But he's black.
And he can dance.
And he's good at talking.
And he's not 72 years old.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby chadjohn24 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:03 am

I had already posted the Stern bit about the Harlem voters :D
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby detfilteg » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:10 am

agonzalez1 wrote:Burnz = Honest...i'll give you that...

McCain has done a whole heck of a lot for this country, Palin has usurped her own party. McCain is decried by his own party because he is a different Republican.

Obama is the most unqualified, unvetted, unchallenged candidate ever. It's quite shocking.



I recieved an email not too long ago comparing the qualifications of Obama and Abraham Lincoln. I'll see if I can find it, or at least the comparisons. You guys know how I feel about both of the top candidates so I will not go there again.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:17 pm

Lincoln v Obama....hmm, i'd still vote for the Republican. :wink:
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby Jinzo » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:05 pm

These two candidates will make my election day easy. I just won't vote, i mean if you look really closely their not different at all. You have corruption on both sides. Obama we all know about his pastor and um Acorn. On John Mccain's side we have Sarah Palin she's tied to so much corruption I can't even listed it all. I wish Mccain would of came out and said "No bail out, we should get the government out of the economy" something along those lines that would of made it up for me for picking Palin. Palin will be Mccain's weakest link I can't stand for corruption, she makes my party look bad. I am a republician but I am no republician dick sucker. Even George Bush publicly said I wish Mccain would of consulted with me before making his vp selection.

Both parties will waste our hard earn money you have Obama who will favor spending on useless government junk programs that will lead us no where. Mccain on the other hand favors the 700 billion dollar Iraq war. =How much more money must we spend on this war? I'm tired of our government spending our money to police the world and i'm tired of being blamed and hated for it by the world. Enough spending!!!!

This will be just like 1992 when we most of us didn't go out and vote for George Bush Sr because he raised taxes, in this case we have a great candidate but he made a bad selection. Don't count on me voting democrat, I either vote Republician/Libertarian or don't vote at all. PEACE!!!!!

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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby dereq » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:48 pm

Indeed, The Pied Piper plays his flute well.

War McCain.

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Your sig is ridiculous and downright offensive. To compare Obama to Hitler and Lenin is about as false as an analogy as you can make. The only reason you put it up is 'cause you're a moderator, and you can hide behind your authority, which frankly, for lack of a better word, is pathetic... :x As much as I like Obama, if McCain becomes pres., I don't think the country will go down the tubes...They are both qualified politicians, their differences are of petty opinion, not of earth shattering consequences....Your stance screams of paranoia and fear mongering, it is as extreme as it is irrational..Furthermore, I find it strange that you would bring politics onto this forum, which obviously ignites opinions, when the last time I checked this was an MMA website!!!
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby TheAssassin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:52 pm

dereq wrote:Indeed, The Pied Piper plays his flute well.

War McCain.

NoBama!


Your sig is ridiculous and downright offensive. To compare Obama to Hitler and Lenin is about as false as an analogy as you can make. The only reason you put it up is 'cause you're a moderator, and you can hide behind your authority, which frankly, for lack of a better word, is pathetic... :x As much as I like Obama, if McCain becomes pres., I don't think the country will go down the tubes...They are both qualified politicians, their differences are of petty opinion, not of earth shattering consequences....Your stance screams of paranoia and fear mongering, it is as extreme as it is irrational..[/quote]

I agree with everything, except for the insults.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:00 pm

There are similarities. All were/are very popular in their own countries, all were/are great public speakers that did not show their true intentions until later on in their "careers". There have been many horrific comparisons of GW Bush to Hitler, yet it only matters when it happens to Barack Obama.

Obama has promised hope and change..yet his constituencies...who hold a great deal of power over him, are in support of the reinstatement of the "Fairness Doctrine", Net Neutrality, he has people that are out to prosecute anyone that has a dissenting opinion of him...called the Obama "Truth Squad". There a children being taught to sing songs and praise his name. They are calling him the "Alpha and Omega".

All at the same time, can you tell me what Obama has done that would let you believe that he is bipartisan? that he will work across party lines? that he will be a guardian of the constitution?

My fear is that many are voting for Obama, and really dont know what he stands for. The media covers McCain Negatively 57% of the time. They praise Obama and do not ask him tough questions.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby TheAssassin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:04 pm

agonzalez1 wrote:There are similarities. All were/are very popular in their own countries, all were/are great public speakers that did not show their true intentions until later on in their "careers". There have been many horrific comparisons of GW Bush to Hitler, yet it only matters when it happens to Barack Obama.

Obama has promised hope and change..yet his constituencies...who hold a great deal of power over him, are in support of the reinstatement of the "Fairness Doctrine", Net Neutrality, he has people that are out to prosecute anyone that has a dissenting opinion of him...called the Obama "Truth Squad". There a children being taught to sing songs and praise his name. They are calling him the "Alpha and Omega".

All at the same time, can you tell me what Obama has done that would let you believe that he is bipartisan? that he will work across party lines? that he will be a guardian of the constitution?

My fear is that many are voting for Obama, and really dont know what he stands for. The media covers McCain Negatively 57% of the time. They praise Obama and do not ask him tough questions.


I wouldn't compare Bush to Obama either.
Obama is winning by a couple percent.
EVERYONE liked Hitler and Lenin's idea.

Where are children being taught to worship Obama?
If they are, I doubt it's his campaign doing it.
If there were any logical proof of that, the press would be all over it.
But I do agree, they're generally for Obama, which is a bad thing, the media should be neutral, but hey Freedom of Speech works both ways.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby dereq » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:08 pm

agonzalez1 wrote:There are similarities. All were/are very popular in their own countries, all were/are great public speakers that did not show their true intentions until later on in their "careers". There have been many horrific comparisons of GW Bush to Hitler, yet it only matters when it happens to Barack Obama.

Obama has promised hope and change..yet his constituencies...who hold a great deal of power over him, are in support of the reinstatement of the "Fairness Doctrine", Net Neutrality, he has people that are out to prosecute anyone that has a dissenting opinion of him...called the Obama "Truth Squad". There a children being taught to sing songs and praise his name. They are calling him the "Alpha and Omega".

All at the same time, can you tell me what Obama has done that would let you believe that he is bipartisan? that he will work across party lines? that he will be a guardian of the constitution?

My fear is that many are voting for Obama, and really dont know what he stands for. The media covers McCain Negatively 57% of the time. They praise Obama and do not ask him tough questions.


Ah, you're pulling out the "liberal media" card that Republicans are so fond of...It's becoming a bit of a cliche...Also, "negative McCain coverage" is not something you can quantify...What constitutes "negative coverage" ? Negative is an opinion, it's not a number, an amount, or a measurement...That stat means nothing...
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby TheAssassin » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:11 pm

Dude, I'm a Obama supporter but I see what he pulling at.
I've noticed that the media pulls of Obama in a general trend.
But hey, they also reported that W won the election before he actually did, so we'll count it even.
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Re: Obama vs. McCain *Poll

Postby agonzalez1 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:13 pm

dereq wrote:
Ah, you're pulling out the "liberal media" card that Republicans are so fond of...It's becoming a bit of a cliche...Also, "negative McCain coverage" is not something you can quantify...What constitutes "negative coverage" ? Negative is an opinion, it's not a number, an amount, or a measurement...That stat means nothing...


its not a card its a fact, here is your "quantification"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr ... _much.html
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