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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby timbercutter » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:33 am

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timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?

Well it also depends on what else you eat during the day.


in what way?....I try not to eat alot of junk.....how much daily protein should I consume...on lifting and non lifting days
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby KingOfPancrase » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:53 am

timbercutter wrote:
Fearless6691 wrote:
timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?

Well it also depends on what else you eat during the day.


in what way?....I try not to eat alot of junk.....how much daily protein should I consume...on lifting and non lifting days

You can't go wrong with a gram per pound of bodyweight.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby biscuits69 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:51 pm

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Fearless6691 wrote:Well it also depends on what else you eat during the day.


in what way?....I try not to eat alot of junk.....how much daily protein should I consume...on lifting and non lifting days

You can't go wrong with a gram per pound of bodyweight.

How about a gram per lean body mass (muscle)

Your fat doesnt need protonz brah
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby Fearless6691 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:25 am

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timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?

Well it also depends on what else you eat during the day.


in what way?....I try not to eat alot of junk.....how much daily protein should I consume...on lifting and non lifting days

Well what are your other protein sources? You need around 155g of protein a day.
What if you eat only carbs or fat the rest of the day? That is not optimal.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:18 pm

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KingOfPancrase wrote:
timbercutter wrote:
Fearless6691 wrote:Well it also depends on what else you eat during the day.


in what way?....I try not to eat alot of junk.....how much daily protein should I consume...on lifting and non lifting days

You can't go wrong with a gram per pound of bodyweight.

How about a gram per lean body mass (muscle)

Your fat doesnt need protonz brah


But brah I iz 0% fats. all lean muscle brah. You drinking my brotein brah? I get 200 grams of brahtein a day brah. Know that feel bro? Get shredded bromaynedude.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby biscuits69 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:44 am

:lol: no worries bro i got my brotein bro training bro training
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby flagellum » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:25 pm

timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?


i typically never recommend more than 30 grams per serving, as most people are incapable of converting much more in a given serving, a great deal is wasted, and or converted in to stores, which will than later be become fat, I have a general rule of thumb, if you urine is foamy in the toilet, you passing protein, lessen your single serving intake. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but for me anything over 40 grams and i pass protein in my urine. i take 5 servings of additional protein a day 150 extra grams a day. on top of my food intake. i weigh 185lbs, 5.5% body fat. i also take in additionally 30 extra grams of branch chain amino acids. I'm a super clean eater, i do not eat red meat or dairy products, no soda, no candy, no refined sugar, flour, or high corn syrup fructose and one of my additional proteins is casein before bed. truth is, its different for everyone. you need to find what works for you. but i will say this, this thread is one of the best Ive read, and the most accurate. id like to say thank you to the knowledgeable posters
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby timbercutter » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:27 pm

flagellum wrote:
timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?


i typically never recommend more than 30 grams per serving, as most people are incapable of converting much more in a given serving, a great deal is wasted, and or converted in to stores, which will than later be become fat, I have a general rule of thumb, if you urine is foamy in the toilet, you passing protein, lessen your single serving intake. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but for me anything over 40 grams and i pass protein in my urine. i take 5 servings of additional protein a day 150 extra grams a day. on top of my food intake. i weigh 185lbs, 5.5% body fat. i also take in additionally 30 extra grams of branch chain amino acids. I'm a super clean eater, i do not eat red meat or dairy products, no soda, no candy, no refined sugar, flour, or high corn syrup fructose and one of my additional proteins is casein before bed. truth is, its different for everyone. you need to find what works for you. but i will say this, this thread is one of the best Ive read, and the most accurate. id like to say thank you to the knowledgeable posters


sounds like you are a bodybuilder...not a powerlifter, huge difference
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby flagellum » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:34 pm

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flagellum wrote:
timbercutter wrote:my post workout protein is about 50-60 grams of isolate....I weigh about 175....is that ok?


i typically never recommend more than 30 grams per serving, as most people are incapable of converting much more in a given serving, a great deal is wasted, and or converted in to stores, which will than later be become fat, I have a general rule of thumb, if you urine is foamy in the toilet, you passing protein, lessen your single serving intake. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but for me anything over 40 grams and i pass protein in my urine. i take 5 servings of additional protein a day 150 extra grams a day. on top of my food intake. i weigh 185lbs, 5.5% body fat. i also take in additionally 30 extra grams of branch chain amino acids. I'm a super clean eater, i do not eat red meat or dairy products, no soda, no candy, no refined sugar, flour, or high corn syrup fructose and one of my additional proteins is casein before bed. truth is, its different for everyone. you need to find what works for you. but i will say this, this thread is one of the best Ive read, and the most accurate. id like to say thank you to the knowledgeable posters


sounds like you are a bodybuilder...not a powerlifter, huge difference


I would agree a huge difference. but im neither to be honest. I work very hard to stay lean and strong, i do relative strength traing, and lots of cardio. i have very high intensity routines. they are very demanding. Im certified as a MMA conditioning specialist and a performance enhancement specialist, so i need to balance very well.

but as i mentioned i am a very clean eater so the bulk of my nutrition for working out comes from supplements, i primarily eat a neolithic diet (caveman) at dinner (1 meal a day) i eat 2 servings of chicken or fish that is my only "meat" intake. my diet is not solely by choice, i have a 5 yr old son who has health issues, and they are managed through diet. dont get me wrong, i long for a steak or burger. since eating this way my son is 100% better. you would never know there was issues. plus I am a single father of two young boys, 5 and 6, and im raising them alone. so i do my best to practice what i preach. hahaha i do occasionally sneak though LOL

here is my son you may recognise this UFC fighter. my son trains with him. my son was diagnosed with aspergers autism and since cleaning his diet, he has been regulary evaluated and is completely normal now, when i let him have treats he acts differently, like an autistic child.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby timbercutter » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:07 pm

^^^^ 5% body fat is def Bodybuilder territory and I'm sure you are very strong, but the protien/Diet requirements of a BB are quite different than that of a powerlifter...BTW--your son looks like a junior badass!...congrats
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby discoowl » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:51 am

any thoughts about creatine on kidney's? Or BCAA's?
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:15 am

discoowl wrote:any thoughts about creatine on kidney's? Or BCAA's?

Take steroids and superset them with HGH. It will make your kidneys grow larger and therefore better able to withstand the punishing effects of BCAA's and Creatine.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby flagellum » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:12 pm

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discoowl wrote:any thoughts about creatine on kidney's? Or BCAA's?

Take steroids and superset them with HGH. It will make your kidneys grow larger and therefore better able to withstand the punishing effects of BCAA's and Creatine.



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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby rattlestick » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:49 am

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discoowl wrote:any thoughts about creatine on kidney's? Or BCAA's?

Take steroids and superset them with HGH. It will make your kidneys grow larger and therefore better able to withstand the punishing effects of BCAA's and Creatine.


strangely there actually could be some truth to that.
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Re: Question - is high protein consumption bad for your kidn

Postby rattlestick » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:02 am

discoowl wrote:any thoughts about creatine on kidney's? Or BCAA's?


creatine i think is a fairly safe supplement if you don't overuse it.

people have been experimenting with and using creatine for decades. unless you have preexisting kidney issues i wouldn't be too worried. it's always a good idea to cycle the product and take 3-4 weeks off between cycles. drinking lots of water when on creatine isn't a bad idea either and also helps reduce the strain on the kidneys.

i would only use creatine monohydrate btw, as it is the most researched form of creatine and (as a result) in my opinion the safest, despite possible adverse effects s.a water retention, bloating and intestinal distress.

you should bear in mind that creatine will alter your blood and urine test results especially creatinine and possibly CPK values.
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