Mr Meow wrote:bwawm wrote: Lol so many factors have such a larger impact on wage growth than immigration homie. Do you actually not know this or are yall just trolling? Immigration has an impact but it isn't anywhere near a significant factor-let alone the ONLY factor.
Yall don't want to talk outsourcing, decline in union memberships, rise in noncompete clauses (especially for unskilled positions), companies moving cities due to minimum wage increase, lobbyists investing millions into keeping unemployment low....none of that? Just Mexicans huh?
You realize that, legally speaking, only immigrants (without citizenship) with worker visa's can be employed, yes? Are you upset about American companies breaking the law to exploit a labor force for cheaper labor? Yall pulling for more regulation on that or just figuring 'don't let Mexicans in' is a good enough plan and ignore all the other factors?
Feel free to educate yourselves!
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
"Impact of immigration on wages is marginal"
KOP is feeding into a propoganda machine he doesn't understand. Tying immigration to every problem in the US may benefit Trump but ignoring the ACTUAL CAUSES is going to fuck all of us brother. This isn't a joke on the left man...these are actual problems.
I did not, nor have I said, that any of the things you addressed do not also play into the current wage environment in addition to the comment that i did make.
I just said that 20 million plus willing to work for less wages does indeed drive down wages.
All what you brought up does too. Its multifaceted. I never said it wasn't nuanced. I didn't even say illegal immigration was the biggest impact. I just said it has an impact
I would love to crack down on American businesses that hire illegals willingly, willfully, on accident, whatever. That would be the first thing i would do if i was the big kahuna. I am very upset with American businesses exploiting this and would love if we devoted more attention to reversing this trend. Stopping the flow of people jumping the border and everything you addressed would be great. Outsourcing has had a huge impact for sure, less union membership, all that. I don't disagree with that.
Also I do not call all Latinos "Mexicans" I am not sure where you got that from.
KingOfPancrase wrote:I'm the propaganda led sheep, but this tool believes everything he sees from the mainstream mediaSpoiler:Spoiler:Put on some truth glassesSpoiler:Get rid of cable. You will be happier and less bombarded with stupidity.
KingOfPancrase wrote:California used to be a conservative, functioning american society. Who would have thought unchecked illegal immigration would have turned it into such a shithole? Like can you believe importing people that A) Don't share your values, B) speak a different language C) have a completely different culture, history, biology etc etc etc would permanently alter your state? The way California went in the 90's is the way Texas is going now. Why do you think Beta O Dork pretending to be a Mexican almost beat Ted Cruz pretending to be a white guy?
PBells wrote:^ You think illegal immigration did more damage to California than Hollywood's unchecked pedophilia/sexual degeneracy and unchecked political corruption?
KingOfPancrase wrote:Reparations for lazy bums who were never slaves. Not even close.
But dat be da rayzizms maynee an shieetttttt we needz dah moneyz gibs me dattt.
Oh and let's just shit all over the 2nd amendment and put people in jail for not submitting to a forced buyback of their semiautomatic rifles
Also let's pump children full of hormones that will ruin them physiologically and psychologically for the rest of their lives...because as we all know kids don't decide shit on a whim. If 5 year old Max claims he's really Maxine HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS WILL?!?!
Democrat 2020!!!!! Yeeee fucking hawwww Honk Honk!Spoiler:
Trump 2020: Our greatest conservative value is easily giving Israel massive amounts of foreign aid and fighting covert wars for them!
WINNING BIGLY!!! WE MOVED THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM LOLOLOLOL
But that is closely followed by legalizing butt sex between men in Africa! What is more conservative than a global campaign to legalize gaping assholes.
Rhinos- Where's my tax cuts? Neocons- Where's my WW3?Spoiler:
Here I am sitting over here like this:Spoiler:
But then I realize it's a comedy not a tragedy. Better to laugh and watch it all burn.Spoiler:
KingOfPancrase wrote:I love how every couple of years the mainstream media and left lockstep in uniform to the beat of some dead illegal kid drowned on some beach/river shore. Expert level propaganda. Surely Trump is to blame! Not her father or anything. Never let a good fact get in the way of your feelings.Spoiler:if the kid was white nobody on the left or in the mainstream media would care...at all...ever
KingOfPancrase wrote:PBells wrote:^ You think illegal immigration did more damage to California than Hollywood's unchecked pedophilia/sexual degeneracy and unchecked political corruption?
Absolutely. From what I've seen the pedophilia thing was mainly hollywood/elites. Small segment. Sexual Degeneracy? Yeah but that's everywhere at this point. Illegal immigration is what drastically changed the state. I mean....they went from electing Ronald Reagan(who I by no means think is the greatest president ever by far) to what we have now...Did all those people from the 70's and 80's just magically change their views over the next 40 years? Or were they replaced and out reproduced? The answer is quite simple.
And as for the clown below you linking lolbertarian "thinktank" articles, believing i'm on welfare, and claiming California is doing so great
I was a libertarian about 8 years ago. The Ron/Rand Paul type. And while I still sympathize with some of their positions- anti war being chief among them, they do jack all to recognize "free trade" is nothing but a lie that has hurt the United States 2nd only to illegal immigration....and that their libertarian ideals don't survive in a borderless country where people who don't share your ideals pore in, breed like rabits, and get on your welfare state.
I work for a living son . And I've never been in debt in my life. KoP is always in the black baby. I'm imagining you're quite the opposite of me in this regard.
California...geez where do I start.... They are such an economic powerhouse apparently yet had to beg Trump for help during their last forest fire outbreak because they allocated all of their money to Liberal bullshit. The socialist peoples republic of Cuckfornia also has some of (if not the most ) restrictive gun laws in the country. If it's so great there then why are white california liberals fleeing to places like Texas to escape the extremely high cost of living, rampant crime, whole cities filled with human feces on every street corner and ridiculous taxes? Oh and how dare they flee the "diversity" they claim to cherish! Was extremely entertaining watching them meltdown when trump threatened to send illegals to their beloved "sanctuary cities" DIVERSITY FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME! *flees into gated all white communities*
Bwawm on California wrote:Shit I will be the first to agree with you on Californians constantly jumping on a high horse and acting like every other state is backwards when their neighborhoods and school districts are JUST as segregated as everyone else's. The hypocrisy and holier than though attitude is obnoxious and baseless. No arguments from me on that.
I agree with you on the gun laws as well-banning guns seems, to me, to be treating a symptom as opposed to fixing the problem and (as you can tell from this exchange) I am absolutely not with that shit. Right or left-if it doesn't fix the problem I don't support it. California has the most deaths by gun of any state in the country and, while the rate is pretty low, if the laws aren't effective they shouldn't be in place. I don't know much about annual changes since they put the tougher laws in place but I can't imagine its that great or they would have been yanking their dicks all over the news talking about how they've "solved the gun violence problem."
DeceptaCon wrote:KingOfPancrase wrote:I love how every couple of years the mainstream media and left lockstep in uniform to the beat of some dead illegal kid drowned on some beach/river shore. Expert level propaganda. Surely Trump is to blame! Not her father or anything. Never let a good fact get in the way of your feelings.Spoiler:if the kid was white nobody on the left or in the mainstream media would care...at all...ever
Ita hard to believe anything in the media anymore hell they could have stage it, I hope to God they didnt it was a horrible picture but if they did nothing would have happened just like the Smollet BS, he just said ,"We'll get them next time" WTF ever happened to accountability but it really doesnt matter when our whole gevernment can lie to the public about 911 invade Iraq and now do the same to Iran. There is no more right or left just the asleep and the woke. Don't waste your time arguing over which piece of shit tastes worse, quit eating the shit they are feeding us all together, that includes you too Bawawnn.Spoiler: