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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby EvilGorilla69+1 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:39 pm

God damn America..?haven't you had enough.. You are practicaly going to war, like every decade, after the WW2... take a fucking break, you god damn mongoloids.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:45 pm

EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:God damn America..?haven't you had enough.. You are practicaly going to war, like every decade, after the WW2... take a fucking break, you god damn mongoloids.

It takes massive sacrifices to maitain the illusion, can't believe how easy people are tricked into going into war in the year 2019. I feel for military personell but they are being used and thrown away, the politicians they blindly follow never go ta war either. That should tell them something, Trump is a reality TV star and Jared Kusher is the beast.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:32 pm

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bwawm wrote: Lol so many factors have such a larger impact on wage growth than immigration homie. Do you actually not know this or are yall just trolling? Immigration has an impact but it isn't anywhere near a significant factor-let alone the ONLY factor.

Yall don't want to talk outsourcing, decline in union memberships, rise in noncompete clauses (especially for unskilled positions), companies moving cities due to minimum wage increase, lobbyists investing millions into keeping unemployment low....none of that? Just Mexicans huh?

You realize that, legally speaking, only immigrants (without citizenship) with worker visa's can be employed, yes? Are you upset about American companies breaking the law to exploit a labor force for cheaper labor? Yall pulling for more regulation on that or just figuring 'don't let Mexicans in' is a good enough plan and ignore all the other factors?

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https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
"Impact of immigration on wages is marginal"

KOP is feeding into a propoganda machine he doesn't understand. Tying immigration to every problem in the US may benefit Trump but ignoring the ACTUAL CAUSES is going to fuck all of us brother. This isn't a joke on the left man...these are actual problems.

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I did not, nor have I said, that any of the things you addressed do not also play into the current wage environment in addition to the comment that i did make.

I just said that 20 million plus willing to work for less wages does indeed drive down wages.

All what you brought up does too. Its multifaceted. I never said it wasn't nuanced. I didn't even say illegal immigration was the biggest impact. I just said it has an impact

I would love to crack down on American businesses that hire illegals willingly, willfully, on accident, whatever. That would be the first thing i would do if i was the big kahuna. I am very upset with American businesses exploiting this and would love if we devoted more attention to reversing this trend. Stopping the flow of people jumping the border and everything you addressed would be great. Outsourcing has had a huge impact for sure, less union membership, all that. I don't disagree with that.

Also I do not call all Latinos "Mexicans" I am not sure where you got that from.


Fuck, sorry homie-def meant to shoot you a response on this but then never clicked send and then got distracted with life. Stoner things. What can you do..

You have not directly said that immigration is a significant factor in wage stagnancy (because you would be objectively wrong) but to only discuss that factor in isolation tends to mislead people as to how significant it actually is (not significant at all).

I said immigrants can't lower minimum wage in a city which has been raising the minimum wage for years. If minimum wage is rising in a particular city....it can't be lowering in the same place at the same time (by immigrants or any other factor)-its either/or. Why is that statement not 100% true?

The factors I mentioned are the actual issues homie-that is the conversation yall should be having...not immigration is LITERALLY 95% of the problem and you don't think its a little crazy to be fixated on/discussing only that little 5%? Immigration is not really worth mentioning in the context of wage stagnation unless you've already mentioned the actual factors driving the problem imo but I get that people have their talking points and like to stick to them.

If someone throws a ciggarrette out on a field and it starts a fire I wouldn't technically be wrong in pointing out that global warming has contributed to drying out the field (in certain regions) and CONTRIBUTED to the fire but it would be wreckless and stupid of me to focus on weather patterns without mentioning the actual causes; dude throwing a lit cigarette onto a field in the summer.

We have a similar situation here. If you want to act like KOP wasn't suggesting immigration was a significant factor in wage stagnation, thats all you brother, but I think we both know thats what it was.

Highest estimate I've ever seen, for an impact of immigration on wage disparity, is 6%. All of the literature indicates immigration is one of the least concerning contributing factors to wage disparity. Hence, I feel fine checking someone who feels it's the only factor worth mentioning (especially a propaganda led sheep like KOP).

Both your responses have been respectful so I apologize if my initial response to you didn't match your tone but I'm not sure I understand what your point is so I assumed you were just trolling.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:40 pm

I'm the propaganda led sheep, but this tool believes everything he sees from the mainstream media :lol: :roll:

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:44 pm

California used to be a conservative, functioning american society. Who would have thought unchecked illegal immigration would have turned it into such a shithole? Like can you believe importing people that A) Don't share your values, B) speak a different language C) have a completely different culture, history, biology etc etc etc would permanently alter your state? The way California went in the 90's is the way Texas is going now. Why do you think Beta O Dork pretending to be a Mexican almost beat Ted Cruz pretending to be a white guy? :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby PBells » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:43 pm

^ You think illegal immigration did more damage to California than Hollywood's unchecked pedophilia/sexual degeneracy and unchecked political corruption?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:14 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:I'm the propaganda led sheep, but this tool believes everything he sees from the mainstream media :lol: :roll:

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Literally nothing I've said is from mainstream media lol-haven't had cable for a decade. Just looking up studies on immigration and wage stagnation and reporting what I find.

There are actual economists out there putting together actual studies...just because you're too stupid to look into empirical data doesn't mean the rest of us can't bring it up.

You're straight up wrong homie

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https://www.cato.org/cato-journal/fall- ... duce-wages
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:34 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:California used to be a conservative, functioning american society. Who would have thought unchecked illegal immigration would have turned it into such a shithole? Like can you believe importing people that A) Don't share your values, B) speak a different language C) have a completely different culture, history, biology etc etc etc would permanently alter your state? The way California went in the 90's is the way Texas is going now. Why do you think Beta O Dork pretending to be a Mexican almost beat Ted Cruz pretending to be a white guy? :lol:


lolololololol

This guy out here talking about the financial backbone of the country like they're fucking up...not like CA's GDP is almost twice that of the runner up :roll:

All those Californians are the ones paying your wellfare check KOP remember that shit homie!

Yall act like change isn't going to happen if you don't bring in immigrants :-? West Virginia has like 2% immigrants and couldn't be much more fucked but MAN look at California making trillions annually :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:33 pm

PBells wrote:^ You think illegal immigration did more damage to California than Hollywood's unchecked pedophilia/sexual degeneracy and unchecked political corruption?

Absolutely. From what I've seen the pedophilia thing was mainly hollywood/elites. Small segment. Sexual Degeneracy? Yeah but that's everywhere at this point. Illegal immigration is what drastically changed the state. I mean....they went from electing Ronald Reagan(who I by no means think is the greatest president ever by far) to what we have now...Did all those people from the 70's and 80's just magically change their views over the next 40 years? Or were they replaced and out reproduced? The answer is quite simple.

And as for the clown below you linking lolbertarian "thinktank" articles, believing i'm on welfare, and claiming California is doing so great :lol: :lol: :roll:
I was a libertarian about 8 years ago. The Ron/Rand Paul type. And while I still sympathize with some of their positions- anti war being chief among them, they do jack all to recognize "free trade" is nothing but a lie that has hurt the United States 2nd only to illegal immigration....and that their libertarian ideals don't survive in a borderless country where people who don't share your ideals pore in, breed like rabits, and get on your welfare state.

I work for a living son . And I've never been in debt in my life. KoP is always in the black baby. I'm imagining you're quite the opposite of me in this regard.

California...geez where do I start.... They are such an economic powerhouse apparently yet had to beg Trump for help during their last forest fire outbreak because they allocated all of their money to Liberal bullshit. The socialist peoples republic of Cuckfornia also has some of (if not the most ) restrictive gun laws in the country. If it's so great there then why are white california liberals fleeing to places like Texas to escape the extremely high cost of living, rampant crime, whole cities filled with human feces on every street corner and ridiculous taxes? Oh and how dare they flee the "diversity" they claim to cherish! Was extremely entertaining watching them meltdown when trump threatened to send illegals to their beloved "sanctuary cities" DIVERSITY FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME! *flees into gated all white communities*
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:47 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:Reparations for lazy bums who were never slaves. Not even close.
But dat be da rayzizms maynee an shieetttttt we needz dah moneyz gibs me dattt. :lol: :roll:

Oh and let's just shit all over the 2nd amendment and put people in jail for not submitting to a forced buyback of their semiautomatic rifles :lol: :roll:

Also let's pump children full of hormones that will ruin them physiologically and psychologically for the rest of their lives...because as we all know kids don't decide shit on a whim. If 5 year old Max claims he's really Maxine HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS WILL?!?!

Democrat 2020!!!!! Yeeee fucking hawwww Honk Honk!

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WINNING BIGLY!!! WE MOVED THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM LOLOLOLOL :lol: :roll:

But that is closely followed by legalizing butt sex between men in Africa! What is more conservative than a global campaign to legalize gaping assholes. :lol: :roll:

What Wall?

Rhinos- Where's my tax cuts? Neocons- Where's my WW3?

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But then I realize it's a comedy not a tragedy. Better to laugh and watch it all burn.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:07 pm

:lol: :lol: you 2 guys are hilarious but this is all by design.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:28 pm

I'm waiting patiently for Bwann's carefully PC crafted response, I think KOP's fire response might have esposed a Linker plant, can't figure out which faction he is with yet, globe earth society/NASA, deep state illuminati, gay mafia or the lizard people. Anyway I smells a rat.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:32 pm

I love how every couple of years the mainstream media and left lockstep in uniform to the beat of some dead illegal kid drowned on some beach/river shore. Expert level propaganda. Surely Trump is to blame! Not her father or anything. Never let a good fact get in the way of your feelings.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:39 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:I love how every couple of years the mainstream media and left lockstep in uniform to the beat of some dead illegal kid drowned on some beach/river shore. Expert level propaganda. Surely Trump is to blame! Not her father or anything. Never let a good fact get in the way of your feelings.

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Ita hard to believe anything in the media anymore hell they could have stage it, I hope to God they didnt it was a horrible picture but if they did nothing would have happened just like the Smollet BS, he just said ,"We'll get them next time" WTF ever happened to accountability but it really doesnt matter when our whole gevernment can lie to the public about 911 invade Iraq and now do the same to Iran. There is no more right or left just the asleep and the woke. Don't waste your time arguing over which piece of shit tastes worse, quit eating the shit they are feeding us all together, that includes you too Bawawnn.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:43 pm

It's amazing how people are brainwashed into believing they can't do basic chores:
"But if we don't have illegals who will mow my lawn or do my dishes?!?!?!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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