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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:02 pm

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KingOfPancrase wrote:Yeah that's just what Murica needs Brick...more immigrants lololololololol.
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bruins2012 wrote:Since 1987 when adjusting for inflation, the % increase in:

➡️ Tuition costs at public universities : 183%
➡️ Tuition costs at private universities: 142%
➡️ Minimum wage: 20%
➡️ Early career salaries: 3%


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Gee I wonder why wages have been driven down...


Sanctuary cities rolling around with $15 minimum wages and KOP is out here thinking immigrants somehow have an impact on driving them down :lol:

You really are a stupid motherfucker man :lol: :lol:


I am not getting inbetween you two. Nor am I defending KOP for using a Jewish slur

however in a country of 340 million or whatever, 20+ million illegal immigrants willing to work for less money for sure drives wages down.

Even nuttier than batshit Bernie Sanders agrees. I agree with him on basically nothing too :lol:

“If poverty is increasing and if wages are going down, I don’t know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are now,” - Bernie Sanders


Lol so many factors have such a larger impact on wage growth than immigration homie. Do you actually not know this or are yall just trolling? Immigration has an impact but it isn't anywhere near a significant factor-let alone the ONLY factor.

Yall don't want to talk outsourcing, decline in union memberships, rise in noncompete clauses (especially for unskilled positions), companies moving cities due to minimum wage increase, lobbyists investing millions into keeping unemployment low....none of that? Just Mexicans huh?

You realize that, legally speaking, only immigrants (without citizenship) with worker visa's can be employed, yes? Are you upset about American companies breaking the law to exploit a labor force for cheaper labor? Yall pulling for more regulation on that or just figuring 'don't let Mexicans in' is a good enough plan and ignore all the other factors?

Feel free to educate yourselves!
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
"Impact of immigration on wages is marginal"

KOP is feeding into a propoganda machine he doesn't understand. Tying immigration to every problem in the US may benefit Trump but ignoring the ACTUAL CAUSES is going to fuck all of us brother. This isn't a joke on the left man...these are actual problems.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:25 pm

The 2020 election is honestly looking like it might be the implosion of the "conservative" movement. They've never conserved anything anyway.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:32 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:The 2020 election is honestly looking like it might be the implosion of the "conservative" movement. They've never conserved anything anyway. I

Neither party has found a viable new candidate and have agreed on mutually assured destruction, the veil has been lifted on both fraud parties. The countdown has begun for the endgame vs Iran and Israel and all the pieces are falling into place. No more pretending to care about nationalism, racism, patriotism or the future of this broke system. We are in a spiritual battle now and no mortal political candidate or movement can save us now.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:58 pm

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KingOfPancrase wrote:The 2020 election is honestly looking like it might be the implosion of the "conservative" movement. They've never conserved anything anyway. I

Neither party has found a viable new candidate and have agreed on mutually assured destruction, the veil has been lifted on both fraud parties. The countdown has begun for the endgame vs Iran and Israel and all the pieces are falling into place. No more pretending to care about nationalism, racism, patriotism or the future of this broke system. We are in a spiritual battle now and no mortal political candidate or movement can save us now.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby PBells » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:10 pm

So wait..... does Trump fight the apocalypse or is he the apocalypse?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:13 pm

PBells wrote:So wait..... does Trump fight the apocalypse or is he the apocalypse?

He ushers it in then Jared takes over in Israel and erects the 3rd temple.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Mr Meow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:28 pm

bwawm wrote: Lol so many factors have such a larger impact on wage growth than immigration homie. Do you actually not know this or are yall just trolling? Immigration has an impact but it isn't anywhere near a significant factor-let alone the ONLY factor.

Yall don't want to talk outsourcing, decline in union memberships, rise in noncompete clauses (especially for unskilled positions), companies moving cities due to minimum wage increase, lobbyists investing millions into keeping unemployment low....none of that? Just Mexicans huh?

You realize that, legally speaking, only immigrants (without citizenship) with worker visa's can be employed, yes? Are you upset about American companies breaking the law to exploit a labor force for cheaper labor? Yall pulling for more regulation on that or just figuring 'don't let Mexicans in' is a good enough plan and ignore all the other factors?

Feel free to educate yourselves!
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
"Impact of immigration on wages is marginal"

KOP is feeding into a propoganda machine he doesn't understand. Tying immigration to every problem in the US may benefit Trump but ignoring the ACTUAL CAUSES is going to fuck all of us brother. This isn't a joke on the left man...these are actual problems.

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I did not, nor have I said, that any of the things you addressed do not also play into the current wage environment in addition to the comment that i did make.

I just said that 20 million plus willing to work for less wages does indeed drive down wages.

All what you brought up does too. Its multifaceted. I never said it wasn't nuanced. I didn't even say illegal immigration was the biggest impact. I just said it has an impact

I would love to crack down on American businesses that hire illegals willingly, willfully, on accident, whatever. That would be the first thing i would do if i was the big kahuna. I am very upset with American businesses exploiting this and would love if we devoted more attention to reversing this trend. Stopping the flow of people jumping the border and everything you addressed would be great. Outsourcing has had a huge impact for sure, less union membership, all that. I don't disagree with that.

Also I do not call all Latinos "Mexicans" I am not sure where you got that from.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:27 am

Jared Kushner resides at 666 5th Ave why am I the only one that thinks this weird? Wake the fuck up people or Google it or whatever you do when you want to feel smart.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:43 pm

Reparations for lazy bums who were never slaves. Not even close.
But dat be da rayzizms maynee an shieetttttt we needz dah moneyz gibs me dattt. :lol: :roll:

Oh and let's just shit all over the 2nd amendment and put people in jail for not submitting to a forced buyback of their semiautomatic rifles :lol: :roll:

Also let's pump children full of hormones that will ruin them physiologically and psychologically for the rest of their lives...because as we all know kids don't decide shit on a whim. If 5 year old Max claims he's really Maxine HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS WILL?!?!

Democrat 2020!!!!! Yeeee fucking hawwww Honk Honk!

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WINNING BIGLY!!! WE MOVED THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM LOLOLOLOL :lol: :roll:

But that is closely followed by legalizing butt sex between men in Africa! What is more conservative than a global campaign to legalize gaping assholes. :lol: :roll:

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Rhinos- Where's my tax cuts? Neocons- Where's my WW3?

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:33 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:Reparations for lazy bums who were never slaves. Not even close.
But dat be da rayzizms maynee an shieetttttt we needz dah moneyz gibs me dattt. :lol: :roll:

Oh and let's just shit all over the 2nd amendment and put people in jail for not submitting to a forced buyback of their semiautomatic rifles :lol: :roll:

Also let's pump children full of hormones that will ruin them physiologically and psychologically for the rest of their lives...because as we all know kids don't decide shit on a whim. If 5 year old Max claims he's really Maxine HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS WILL?!?!

Democrat 2020!!!!! Yeeee fucking hawwww Honk Honk!

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Trump 2020: Our greatest conservative value is easily giving Israel massive amounts of foreign aid and fighting covert wars for them! :lol: :roll:
WINNING BIGLY!!! WE MOVED THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM LOLOLOLOL :lol: :roll:

But that is closely followed by legalizing butt sex between men in Africa! What is more conservative than a global campaign to legalize gaping assholes. :lol: :roll:

What Wall?

Rhinos- Where's my tax cuts? Neocons- Where's my WW3?

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:33 am

DeceptaCon wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:Reparations for lazy bums who were never slaves. Not even close.
But dat be da rayzizms maynee an shieetttttt we needz dah moneyz gibs me dattt. :lol: :roll:

Oh and let's just shit all over the 2nd amendment and put people in jail for not submitting to a forced buyback of their semiautomatic rifles :lol: :roll:

Also let's pump children full of hormones that will ruin them physiologically and psychologically for the rest of their lives...because as we all know kids don't decide shit on a whim. If 5 year old Max claims he's really Maxine HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS WILL?!?!

Democrat 2020!!!!! Yeeee fucking hawwww Honk Honk!

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Trump 2020: Our greatest conservative value is easily giving Israel massive amounts of foreign aid and fighting covert wars for them! :lol: :roll:
WINNING BIGLY!!! WE MOVED THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM LOLOLOLOL :lol: :roll:

But that is closely followed by legalizing butt sex between men in Africa! What is more conservative than a global campaign to legalize gaping assholes. :lol: :roll:

What Wall?

Rhinos- Where's my tax cuts? Neocons- Where's my WW3?

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Here I am sitting over here like this:
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But then I realize it's a comedy not a tragedy. Better to laugh and watch it all burn.
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Godamnit this is why you are a Pillar

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 pm

Key steps Trump has taken to create Iran war:
✅Tore up Iran nuclear agreement
✅Escalated crippling sanctions
✅Designated Iran military as terrorists
✅Sent more troops to the region
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:45 pm

EvilGorilla69+1 wrote:God damn America..?haven't you had enough.. You are practicaly going to war, like every decade, after the WW2... take a fucking break, you god damn mongoloids.

It takes massive sacrifices to maitain the illusion, can't believe how easy people are tricked into going into war in the year 2019. I feel for military personell but they are being used and thrown away, the politicians they blindly follow never go ta war either. That should tell them something, Trump is a reality TV star and Jared Kusher is the beast.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:32 pm

Mr Meow wrote:
bwawm wrote: Lol so many factors have such a larger impact on wage growth than immigration homie. Do you actually not know this or are yall just trolling? Immigration has an impact but it isn't anywhere near a significant factor-let alone the ONLY factor.

Yall don't want to talk outsourcing, decline in union memberships, rise in noncompete clauses (especially for unskilled positions), companies moving cities due to minimum wage increase, lobbyists investing millions into keeping unemployment low....none of that? Just Mexicans huh?

You realize that, legally speaking, only immigrants (without citizenship) with worker visa's can be employed, yes? Are you upset about American companies breaking the law to exploit a labor force for cheaper labor? Yall pulling for more regulation on that or just figuring 'don't let Mexicans in' is a good enough plan and ignore all the other factors?

Feel free to educate yourselves!
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2459 ... ing-wages/
"Impact of immigration on wages is marginal"

KOP is feeding into a propoganda machine he doesn't understand. Tying immigration to every problem in the US may benefit Trump but ignoring the ACTUAL CAUSES is going to fuck all of us brother. This isn't a joke on the left man...these are actual problems.

Wreckless.


I did not, nor have I said, that any of the things you addressed do not also play into the current wage environment in addition to the comment that i did make.

I just said that 20 million plus willing to work for less wages does indeed drive down wages.

All what you brought up does too. Its multifaceted. I never said it wasn't nuanced. I didn't even say illegal immigration was the biggest impact. I just said it has an impact

I would love to crack down on American businesses that hire illegals willingly, willfully, on accident, whatever. That would be the first thing i would do if i was the big kahuna. I am very upset with American businesses exploiting this and would love if we devoted more attention to reversing this trend. Stopping the flow of people jumping the border and everything you addressed would be great. Outsourcing has had a huge impact for sure, less union membership, all that. I don't disagree with that.

Also I do not call all Latinos "Mexicans" I am not sure where you got that from.


Fuck, sorry homie-def meant to shoot you a response on this but then never clicked send and then got distracted with life. Stoner things. What can you do..

You have not directly said that immigration is a significant factor in wage stagnancy (because you would be objectively wrong) but to only discuss that factor in isolation tends to mislead people as to how significant it actually is (not significant at all).

I said immigrants can't lower minimum wage in a city which has been raising the minimum wage for years. If minimum wage is rising in a particular city....it can't be lowering in the same place at the same time (by immigrants or any other factor)-its either/or. Why is that statement not 100% true?

The factors I mentioned are the actual issues homie-that is the conversation yall should be having...not immigration is LITERALLY 95% of the problem and you don't think its a little crazy to be fixated on/discussing only that little 5%? Immigration is not really worth mentioning in the context of wage stagnation unless you've already mentioned the actual factors driving the problem imo but I get that people have their talking points and like to stick to them.

If someone throws a ciggarrette out on a field and it starts a fire I wouldn't technically be wrong in pointing out that global warming has contributed to drying out the field (in certain regions) and CONTRIBUTED to the fire but it would be wreckless and stupid of me to focus on weather patterns without mentioning the actual causes; dude throwing a lit cigarette onto a field in the summer.

We have a similar situation here. If you want to act like KOP wasn't suggesting immigration was a significant factor in wage stagnation, thats all you brother, but I think we both know thats what it was.

Highest estimate I've ever seen, for an impact of immigration on wage disparity, is 6%. All of the literature indicates immigration is one of the least concerning contributing factors to wage disparity. Hence, I feel fine checking someone who feels it's the only factor worth mentioning (especially a propaganda led sheep like KOP).

Both your responses have been respectful so I apologize if my initial response to you didn't match your tone but I'm not sure I understand what your point is so I assumed you were just trolling.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:40 pm

I'm the propaganda led sheep, but this tool believes everything he sees from the mainstream media :lol: :roll:

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