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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:51 pm

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"I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place," Trump said, but then, calling into question the extent of his acceptance, he added that it "could be other people also, there are a lot of people out there."


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Trump should have stuck to his guns instead of uncharacteristically semi-apologizing. Any form of apology never wins you favor with liberals or Rinos.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:22 pm

Trump meets behind closed doors (with no other advisors) and takes the word of a Russian spy over the evidence of 17 intelligence agencies, his Director of National Intelligence, the BSIC, and his own Justice Department.

And completely ignored all the official protocol of meeting with the KGB behind closed doors.

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby KingOfPancrase » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:57 pm

bruins2012 wrote:Trump meets behind closed doors (with no other advisors) and takes the word of a Russian spy over the evidence of 17 intelligence agencies, his Director of National Intelligence, the BSIC, and his own Justice Department.

And completely ignored all the official protocol of meeting with the KGB behind closed doors.

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Must have been those same "intelligence" agencies that told us there were WMD's in Iraq
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:19 am

KingOfPancrase wrote:
bruins2012 wrote:Trump meets behind closed doors (with no other advisors) and takes the word of a Russian spy over the evidence of 17 intelligence agencies, his Director of National Intelligence, the BSIC, and his own Justice Department.

And completely ignored all the official protocol of meeting with the KGB behind closed doors.

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Must have been those same "intelligence" agencies that told us there were WMD's in Iraq
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Fair point. His behavior is still baffling though.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Mr Meow » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:51 am

Trump saying he said "Would" instead of "Wouldn't" is not quite as bad as Bill Clinton saying "it depends on what your definition of the word "is" is." but its pretty close.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby PBells » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:30 am

Anyone want to come to Columbus to see Stormy Daniels' strip-show tour next month? :lol: Or hang out with me? :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bwawm » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:13 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:
bruins2012 wrote:Trump meets behind closed doors (with no other advisors) and takes the word of a Russian spy over the evidence of 17 intelligence agencies, his Director of National Intelligence, the BSIC, and his own Justice Department.

And completely ignored all the official protocol of meeting with the KGB behind closed doors.

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Must have been those same "intelligence" agencies that told us there were WMD's in Iraq
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:lol: red herring much?

Are you assuming that Russian intelligence is infallible or ......?
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:23 pm

Not sure what people were expecting from Trump.

I mean, going up there and saying Putin told me he didn't do it, is a silly thing to do. But even if Putin did interfere with the elections it would be for the benefit of Trump. Why would Trump take him to task and admit he didn't win legitimately.

Also people wanted to confront Putin over other issues like Crimea and Syria and gay rights and I don't know what else. How does that work. Here you have an American government that forcibly stole children from their parents arms. Is so racist they ban entry to people of a specific faith. Helped create and grow ISIS, as per Trump himself. You could have a news conference were Trump goes up and talks about Crimea and Syria and Putin go up and talk about children and ISIS. What good is that?

It is strange for Trump to call the EU as foes and then be so friendly with Russia. But that's Trump.

Like KoP said, people are itching for WW3.

The media has two foreign obsessions. Israel and Russia (sometimes China). Love and hate. Can do no wrong and can do no right. Must coddle polish protect and love at all times and must hate, vilify, and attack all times.

On a side note, I think China is on the establishment hate column but I think the Chinese are smart and are investing lots of PR. You end up with Chinese friendly movies like crouching tiger and movie stars like Jet Li and Jackie Chan. I mean, who can hate on Jackie?? no one.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Mr Meow » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:28 pm

willmma wrote:Not sure what people were expecting from Trump.

I mean, going up there and saying Putin told me he didn't do it, is a silly thing to do. But even if Putin did interfere with the elections it would be for the benefit of Trump. Why would Trump take him to task and admit he didn't win legitimately.

Also people wanted to confront Putin over other issues like Crimea and Syria and gay rights and I don't know what else. How does that work. Here you have an American government that forcibly stole children from their parents arms. Is so racist they ban entry to people of a specific faith. Helped create and grow ISIS, as per Trump himself. You could have a news conference were Trump goes up and talks about Crimea and Syria and Putin go up and talk about children and ISIS. What good is that?

It is strange for Trump to call the EU as foes and then be so friendly with Russia. But that's Trump.

Like KoP said, people are itching for WW3.

The media has two foreign obsessions. Israel and Russia (sometimes China). Love and hate. Can do no wrong and can do no right. Must coddle polish protect and love at all times and must hate, vilify, and attack all times.

On a side note, I think China is on the establishment hate column but I think the Chinese are smart and are investing lots of PR. You end up with Chinese friendly movies like crouching tiger and movie stars like Jet Li and Jackie Chan. I mean, who can hate on Jackie?? no one.



Agreed overall. However there are cases of the opposite to be fair

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ly-allege/



First of all banning people of a specific religion is not racist. Islam is not a race

If you want say its bigoted that would be one thing. That would still be untrue though. Obama signaled these 7 nations as having huge potential national security risk. Trump then proposed, but did not put into place, a temporary travel stoppage on new entries from these specific countries. People who were already here from those countries or American's traveling from those countries could still come and go.

Also Egypt has like 100 million Muslims, Indonesia has like 250 million, Bangladesh has like 100 million etc etc. Muslims from all these countries were not effected by this at all. So saying America banned people from a certain religion to enter the country is just not factually correct at all. Or even close to it. If it is a Muslim ban then these people would have been affected too and they weren't.


Americans forcibly stole children from their parents? The issue with this is that if you try to come into the country legally this does not happen. If you try to come in illegally and say you are seeking asylum this does not happen. It only happens when people break the law and try to enter illegally. Know what happens to US citizens who break the law? They are not allowed to see their kids when they are detained during the criminal process.......so why should Americans treat non citizens better than we treat our own kids and citizens? Special treatment for those who try to cross illegally. Not sure I follow that

Mexico is a failed third world country with a hilariously corrupt government, a southern border wall, much harsher penalties for those caught entering illegally and harboring illegals and treat black people way worse than the US does yet they have the balls to call us racist. Amazing.

If America is such a racist place why do a shit ton of non white people try to enter illegally? Or immigrate legally?

Russia treats homosexuals far worse on average than America does also. Just throwing that out there. If Donald called him out on that I would not have had an issue with it on a level of principle, but yeah I agree I am not sure how much good it would have done beyond that though.

I get calling America a racist society is one of the last remaining bits of socially acceptable bigotry, but can we keep it to the facts please? Japan had over 20,000 applicants of refugees in 2016 and accepted 20 of them. Japan is only 98.5% ethnic Japanese I suppose, so are they a racist horrible country for that? I personally do not think so but if we apply this logic unilaterally you would have to say that they are indeed a horrible bigoted society unwilling to help people.


But yeah Trump sucks. He is in dirty with the Russians. Fuck I'm. About to add a trillion to the national deficit as well in 2019 from current projections. What I would do to have a good president again. Its been so long. Certainly not since the 2000s that is for damn sure.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:47 pm

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:43 pm

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Shuck » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:25 pm

Democrats & Republicans were put in place to divide the Country
CNN & FOX NEWS.. divide the Country
Citizens vs Police.. divide the Country
50 States each having their own Sport Teams (almost each)... divide the Country

Advertise beer & cigs.. weaken general pop
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Prescribe Meds like Candy.. weaken the pop

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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby willmma » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:31 am

Mr Meow wrote:
willmma wrote:Not sure what people were expecting from Trump.

I mean, going up there and saying Putin told me he didn't do it, is a silly thing to do. But even if Putin did interfere with the elections it would be for the benefit of Trump. Why would Trump take him to task and admit he didn't win legitimately.

Also people wanted to confront Putin over other issues like Crimea and Syria and gay rights and I don't know what else. How does that work. Here you have an American government that forcibly stole children from their parents arms. Is so racist they ban entry to people of a specific faith. Helped create and grow ISIS, as per Trump himself. You could have a news conference were Trump goes up and talks about Crimea and Syria and Putin go up and talk about children and ISIS. What good is that?

It is strange for Trump to call the EU as foes and then be so friendly with Russia. But that's Trump.

Like KoP said, people are itching for WW3.

The media has two foreign obsessions. Israel and Russia (sometimes China). Love and hate. Can do no wrong and can do no right. Must coddle polish protect and love at all times and must hate, vilify, and attack all times.

On a side note, I think China is on the establishment hate column but I think the Chinese are smart and are investing lots of PR. You end up with Chinese friendly movies like crouching tiger and movie stars like Jet Li and Jackie Chan. I mean, who can hate on Jackie?? no one.



Agreed overall. However there are cases of the opposite to be fair

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ly-allege/



First of all banning people of a specific religion is not racist. Islam is not a race

If you want say its bigoted that would be one thing. That would still be untrue though. Obama signaled these 7 nations as having huge potential national security risk. Trump then proposed, but did not put into place, a temporary travel stoppage on new entries from these specific countries. People who were already here from those countries or American's traveling from those countries could still come and go.

Also Egypt has like 100 million Muslims, Indonesia has like 250 million, Bangladesh has like 100 million etc etc. Muslims from all these countries were not effected by this at all. So saying America banned people from a certain religion to enter the country is just not factually correct at all. Or even close to it. If it is a Muslim ban then these people would have been affected too and they weren't.




Let's not kid ourselves. Trump ran on a "total and complete" Muslim ban. The fact that he couldn't implement it and had to settle on a seven country ban 2 of which are not Muslim is not credit to him but the judicial process.



Americans forcibly stole children from their parents? The issue with this is that if you try to come into the country legally this does not happen.
No. Absolutely not. The issue is separating children from their parents. who the fuck does that!? Send them all back, dont send the parents and keep the children. An attempt to illegally enter is bad. I'm not against sending them back. But "the issue" that I have is with taking the children. Don't make excuses Meow it's not a good look.


If you try to come in illegally and say you are seeking asylum this does not happen. It only happens when people break the law and try to enter illegally. Know what happens to US citizens who break the law? They are not allowed to see their kids when they are detained during the criminal process.......so why should Americans treat non citizens better than we treat our own kids and citizens? Special treatment for those who try to cross illegally. Not sure I follow that

If you commit a crime you go to prison. If you are caught crossing illegally you AND YOUR CHILDREN are sent back. Anything else is cruel and unnecessary. Don't conflate the two

The rest below are either red-herrings or way too off topic to get into.


Mexico is a failed third world country with a hilariously corrupt government, a southern border wall, much harsher penalties for those caught entering illegally and harboring illegals and treat black people way worse than the US does yet they have the balls to call us racist. Amazing.

If America is such a racist place why do a shit ton of non white people try to enter illegally? Or immigrate legally?

Russia treats homosexuals far worse on average than America does also. Just throwing that out there. If Donald called him out on that I would not have had an issue with it on a level of principle, but yeah I agree I am not sure how much good it would have done beyond that though.

I get calling America a racist society is one of the last remaining bits of socially acceptable bigotry, but can we keep it to the facts please? Japan had over 20,000 applicants of refugees in 2016 and accepted 20 of them. Japan is only 98.5% ethnic Japanese I suppose, so are they a racist horrible country for that? I personally do not think so but if we apply this logic unilaterally you would have to say that they are indeed a horrible bigoted society unwilling to help people.

But yeah Trump sucks. He is in dirty with the Russians. Fuck I'm. About to add a trillion to the national deficit as well in 2019 from current projections. What I would do to have a good president again. Its been so long. Certainly not since the 2000s that is for damn sure.
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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby bruins2012 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:38 am

***FBI Uncovers Massive Terror Plot***


WASHINGTON—Putting the nation on alert against what it has described as a “highly credible terrorist threat,” the FBI announced today that it has uncovered a plot by members of al-Qaeda to sit back and enjoy themselves while the United States collapses of its own accord.

Multiple intelligence agencies confirmed that the militant Islamist organization and its numerous affiliates intend to carry out a massive, coordinated plan to stand aside and watch America’s increasingly rapid decline, with terrorist operatives across the globe reportedly mobilizing to take it easy, relax, and savor the spectacle as it unfolds.

“We have intercepted electronic communication indicating that al-Qaeda members are actively plotting to stay out of the way while America as we know it gradually crumbles under the weight of its own self-inflicted debt and disrepair,” FBI Deputy Director Mark F. Giuliano told the assembled press corps. “If this plan succeeds, it will leave behind a nation with a completely dysfunctional economy, collapsing infrastructure, and a catastrophic health crisis afflicting millions across the nation. We want to emphasize that this danger is very real.”

“And unfortunately, based on information we have from intelligence assets on the ground, this plot is already well under way,” he added.

A recently declassified CIA report confirmed that all known al-Qaeda-affiliated organizations—from Pakistan to Yemen, and from Somalia to Algeria—have been instructed to kick back and enjoy the show as the United States’ federal government, energy grid, and industrial sector are rendered impotent by internal dissent, decay, and mismanagement. According to statements made by top-level informants and corroborated by leading Western terrorism experts, if seen through to its conclusion, al-Qaeda’s current plot could wreak far more damage than the events of 9/11.

In the past year, money transfers to al-Qaeda cells around the world have reportedly been accompanied by instructions to use the funds to outfit safe houses with the proper equipment to receive American cable news broadcasts and view top U.S. news websites, allowing terrorists to fully relish each detail of the impending demise of the last global superpower.

Additionally, FBI officials made public an internal al-Qaeda video today in which the terrorist organization’s leader Ayman al-Zawahiri chillingly exhorts his followers to “take a load off” and “unwind” in the name of jihad, and really cherish the victory over their enemy.

“Praise Allah, for soon every American city shall be plagued with disaster and hardship,” al-Zawahiri said in the video, which includes several minutes of footage of young, masked al-Qaeda militants casually sipping beverages as they thumb through the latest issues of Time and U.S. News And World Report. “The infidels have brought this pain and destruction upon themselves through their arrogance and callousness. Soon, the United States will watch in horror as its bridges crumble, its desperate citizens suffer in want of medicine and paying employment, and its once vast riches are reduced to naught. The righteous warriors among our ranks must now unite, get comfortable, and look on from afar at the calamity unfolding in the West.”

“We vow that we will not cease sitting around and laughing it up until America is reduced to rubble,” he continued.

Al-Zawahiri, who is seen in the video reclining back in his chair, putting his feet up, and flipping on CNN, later shouts “Allahu Akbar!” when a story is aired about the decade-long trend of stagnant wages among American workers.

The FBI has also warned that numerous al-Qaeda agents may have established sleeper cells for the purpose of “getting a kick out of” the nation’s downfall on American soil. The bureau urged U.S. residents to use caution around schools, hospitals, legislative bodies, prisons, and other decaying institutions whose imminent failure terrorists may wish to observe up close.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one high-ranking U.S. counterterrorism official has described the present situation as a massive failure of intelligence.

“The warning signs were there all along, but unfortunately we failed to heed them,” said the official, who advised Americans to brace for widespread devastation. “If we’d listened to experts or even our own common sense, we would’ve realized that this plot was being actively orchestrated within our own borders. But we didn’t, and now every one of our citizens and our very way of life is at risk from this threat.”

“Sadly, al-Qaeda has us right where they want us,” the official added, “and at this point, I fear it is too late to do anything about it.”

Responding to the allegations, a spokesperson for al-Qaeda reportedly confirmed the terror group’s plot and praised the American people as martyrs of the highest order.


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Re: The Official Political Thread.

Postby Mr Meow » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:33 am

Shuck wrote:Democrats & Republicans were put in place to divide the Country
CNN & FOX NEWS.. divide the Country
Citizens vs Police.. divide the Country
50 States each having their own Sport Teams (almost each)... divide the Country

Advertise beer & cigs.. weaken general pop
Advertise Sugar.. weaken the pop
Fast food at every corner... weaken the pop
Free Porn.. weaken the pop
Prescribe Meds like Candy.. weaken the pop

False Flags i.e 9/11... control the country
False Flags i.e Vegas Shooting.. remove guns, control country (tbd)
....

The evidence is clear as day fellas. They control both sides of the fence w/one end goal in mind, Divide & Weaken & Control through Fear.. Power in Numbers.. United we Stand Divided we Fall.. everything we see is Propaganda designed to warp our minds in one direction or another, keying on each sides emotions.. don't be fooled, they use kids as pawns in a game of chess, it is all that it is..



Do you mind If I ask what you base this off? I have heard this before but from what I know about it I personally do not think it adds up beyond being fishy to being a full fledged false flag. The Jesus Campos stuff was certainly odd though
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