Headhunter wrote:i've been doin judo and jiu-jitsu for over 10 years and i'll tell you right now it's the same exact thing. the difference is the emphasis. in BJJ you get points for passing guard, submission attempts and sweeps from bottom to top and in judo you get points for throws... but they all have the same exact moves, that's why you can still submit people in judo even though throwing is a big thing for judo. carlson gracie learned to grapple from a judoka before he made BJJ but he was not learning how to compete in judo so he was not into the train of thought of emphasis and could freely learn both styles just by learning all the moves from one.
if you are trying to learn something in your down time i highly recommend taking judo because like i said, people who train BJJ rarely put emphasis on throws, they prefer to pull you in and pull guard and stuff, but just imagine what you can do if you are versing someone who is pulling guard constantly while you are able to hip toss and go directly from standing up into side mount.
the rules in judo also actually complement the rules in jiu-jitsu even if the emphasis is different, it's not like wrestling. if you wrestle, you want to avoid being on the back as much as possible, that's exactly how you lose... in jiu-jitsu, you want to avoid being belly down and you learn both styles based off of those rules. when you have taken multiple martial arts like wrestling, judo and jiu-jitsu you realize that the only difference between one style and another are the rules of engagement and they make the biggest, and really... the only difference... but for someone extremely new like you, it makes enough difference that i would not recommend wrestling because you do not have your own foundation and it can be confusing, so yea... go for judo
Zazu. wrote:i started bjj(nogi) training about a month ago, but for some reasons i wont be able to practice anymore but i just might be able to get some judo lessons, I'm just interested in practicing the ground game more than anything, the throws in judo and everything else are just a bonus, but my concern is that judo's ground game isn't as complete as bjj's besides I'm not really sure about wearing a gi, i've heard many bad things about it like that it creates bad habits and many techniques don't work without the gi, so i'm asking for your opinion... do you think judos ground game is as good as bjjs or does the gi, throws and different objectives put judo behind bjj?
i don't really know how judo is played, but in mma i've never heard anything about judos ground game all i hear about is good throws, everything in the ground is bjj so im concerned about judos ground effectiveness so can you give me your thoughts on this, specially if you have had a problem like this or you're a judoka that can fill in the gaps for me. thx
Headhunter wrote:i've been doin judo and jiu-jitsu for over 10 years and i'll tell you right now it's the same exact thing. the difference is the emphasis.