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Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby D-RawK » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:43 pm

So I have to get a freestanding heavybag because I have to keep it outside. I found one on craigslist. Its a waverider xxl freestanding. Only $150. Any way I can test if its worth buying first though? Id really like a new one at a good price so if anyone has any sites let me know.

I also want something to work on speed and accuracy. Speed bag and double end are out because I have to hook them up. My only choice seems to be a reflex bag, but people say those are too slow. Mabye theres a really good brand one people have good things to say about?

thanks in advanced.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby BWR450 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:25 am

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Everlast-70-l ... t/12569425
Its what Im going to buy and hook up to my tree outside. Comes with gloves and is really cheap...hope I helped.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby D-RawK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:30 pm

I hear stay away from everlast. I never though about attaching it to my tree. I really dont think a 70-100 lb bag will stay on a tree branch long especially with weathering.

Im stuck between either getting a big stand heavy bag or a freestanding one.
The ones on the stand I cant circle and im gonna have to wait for the bag to be swinging away.
The freestanding one is more expensive, but i dont know if it will help my punch/kick strength/speed as much as a hanging weighted bag. Heres the freestanding im looking at. check the description.
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=wavema ... =sr_bx_1_1


edit: just found this on youtube. seems perfect but the price is steep.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby BWR450 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:35 pm

D-RawK wrote:I hear stay away from everlast. I never though about attaching it to my tree. I really dont think a 70-100 lb bag will stay on a tree branch long especially with weathering.

Im stuck between either getting a big stand heavy bag or a freestanding one.
The ones on the stand I cant circle and im gonna have to wait for the bag to be swinging away.
The freestanding one is more expensive, but i dont know if it will help my punch/kick strength/speed as much as a hanging weighted bag. Heres the freestanding im looking at. check the description.
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=wavema ... =sr_bx_1_1


edit: just found this on youtube. seems perfect but the price is steep.

Whats wrong with Everlast?
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby D-RawK » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:19 pm

Apparently they dont hold up well. Dont go by my words alone though. Its just what Ive read on the forums.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby JohnKG » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:00 pm

BWR450 wrote:
D-RawK wrote:I hear stay away from everlast. I never though about attaching it to my tree. I really dont think a 70-100 lb bag will stay on a tree branch long especially with weathering.

Im stuck between either getting a big stand heavy bag or a freestanding one.
The ones on the stand I cant circle and im gonna have to wait for the bag to be swinging away.
The freestanding one is more expensive, but i dont know if it will help my punch/kick strength/speed as much as a hanging weighted bag. Heres the freestanding im looking at. check the description.
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=wavema ... =sr_bx_1_1


edit: just found this on youtube. seems perfect but the price is steep.

Whats wrong with Everlast?


They've developed a reputation for the sand in their bags settling at the bottom of the bag overtime and feeling like a cement block at the lower half and pillows for the upper...
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby bigbran » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:27 pm

JohnKG wrote:
BWR450 wrote:
D-RawK wrote:I hear stay away from everlast. I never though about attaching it to my tree. I really dont think a 70-100 lb bag will stay on a tree branch long especially with weathering.

Im stuck between either getting a big stand heavy bag or a freestanding one.
The ones on the stand I cant circle and im gonna have to wait for the bag to be swinging away.
The freestanding one is more expensive, but i dont know if it will help my punch/kick strength/speed as much as a hanging weighted bag. Heres the freestanding im looking at. check the description.
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=wavema ... =sr_bx_1_1


edit: just found this on youtube. seems perfect but the price is steep.

Whats wrong with Everlast?


They've developed a reputation for the sand in their bags settling at the bottom of the bag overtime and feeling like a cement block at the lower half and pillows for the upper...


Yes. One of mine is like a rock at the bottom, but I've gotten used to it (although it bruises my shins all the time), and my other one just has one piece where it's really really hard. The rest of the bag is good though, but I have one weak shin/ankle due to sprain/break and it's got tears and bruises from the bag. The first time I caught that though with my hand it was like punching a brick wall. I got used to it a bit, but still, it's there and it's not going anywhere.

Both are Everlast. The one with just the one piece of sand is more consistently hard all around, and the other one is like you described.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby Fighttolive » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:31 pm

JohnKG wrote:
BWR450 wrote:
D-RawK wrote:I hear stay away from everlast. I never though about attaching it to my tree. I really dont think a 70-100 lb bag will stay on a tree branch long especially with weathering.

Im stuck between either getting a big stand heavy bag or a freestanding one.
The ones on the stand I cant circle and im gonna have to wait for the bag to be swinging away.
The freestanding one is more expensive, but i dont know if it will help my punch/kick strength/speed as much as a hanging weighted bag. Heres the freestanding im looking at. check the description.
http://www.target.com/s?keywords=wavema ... =sr_bx_1_1


edit: just found this on youtube. seems perfect but the price is steep.

Whats wrong with Everlast?


They've developed a reputation for the sand in their bags settling at the bottom of the bag overtime and feeling like a cement block at the lower half and pillows for the upper...

this is true, already happened to my bag haven been using it for more than a year
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby 1/6,000,000,000 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:17 am

its time to change the name of Everlast to Neverlast...
any hitting bag/gloves would do, protect your hand skin and practice punching, having 2 pairs of gloves is somewhat neccessary since you will want to spar or hit the mitt (substitute focus mitts with just a glove)
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby manzuri » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:54 pm

iv never seen a stable free standing bag, if i were you i would get like a 3ft bracket or something you can bolt to a tree and hang the bag from that, and just throw a tarp or something over it when ever you arent using it. that or put it in the ground with some quick-crete or something.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby visdoleo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:54 pm

The one I use at home, I bought at Sears, it was a stand + 100lb heavy bag + speed bag. For around $200. Although, that has been some time ago, not sure if they still sell at that price, but it's all held together and I still use it when I don't get a chance to hit the gym.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby visdoleo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:58 pm

When I first bought the thing (Everlast btw), I placed 25lbs weights on the ends made to hold it down, on the first hard punch I threw, the stand almost tipped over and I jumped and grabbed it. I now have 105bs on each end to hold it down and it does fine. Although a mounted bag is better, this will suffice for ANYONE.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby Fighttolive » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:46 pm

visdoleo wrote:When I first bought the thing (Everlast btw), I placed 25lbs weights on the ends made to hold it down, on the first hard punch I threw, the stand almost tipped over and I jumped and grabbed it. I now have 105bs on each end to hold it down and it does fine. Although a mounted bag is better, this will suffice for ANYONE.

yeah you need a good 150-200 lbs weights to weigh down a stand if your bag is 70-100lbs.
your lucky you didnt get hurt haha, i read the instructions, didn't have enough weights lying around though so i just use big old rocks lol.
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Re: Basic standup starting equitpment

Postby manzuri » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:36 pm

Fighttolive wrote:
visdoleo wrote:When I first bought the thing (Everlast btw), I placed 25lbs weights on the ends made to hold it down, on the first hard punch I threw, the stand almost tipped over and I jumped and grabbed it. I now have 105bs on each end to hold it down and it does fine. Although a mounted bag is better, this will suffice for ANYONE.

yeah you need a good 150-200 lbs weights to weigh down a stand if your bag is 70-100lbs.
your lucky you didnt get hurt haha, i read the instructions, didn't have enough weights lying around though so i just use big old rocks lol.

yeah, that sounds like the best solution, weights are not cheep. lol.
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