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New Rankings Thread

Postby philphan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:17 pm

Reply to this thread each month for rankings.

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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:54 am

End of April

Men

125 lb
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. Joseph Benavidez
3. John Dodson
4. Henry Cejudo
5. Jussier da Silva
6. Louis Smolka
7. Ali Bagautinov
8. Zach Makovsky
9. John Moraga
10. Frankie Saenz

135lb
1. Dominick Cruz
2. Bibiano Fernandes
3. Urijah Faber
4. Renan Barao
5. Jimmie Rivera
6. T.J. Dillashaw
7. Aljamain Sterling
8. Marlon Moraes
9. Kyoji Horiguchi
10. John Lineker

145lb
1. Jose Aldo
2. Frankie Edgar
3. Conor McGregor
4. Patricio Freire
5. Daniel Straus
6. Max Holloway
7. Tatsuya Kawajiri
8. Ricardo Lamas
9. Chad Mendes
10. Pat Curran

155lb
1. Rafael dos Anjos
2. Donald Cerrone
3. Shinya Aoki
4. Khabib Nurmagomedov
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Will Brooks
7. Anthony Pettis
8. Tony Ferguson
9. Justin Gaethje
10. Gilbert Melendez

170lb
1. Robbie Lawler
2. Johny Hendricks
3. Demian Maia
4. Ben Askren
5. Rory MacDonald
6. Tyron Woodley
7. Jake Shields
8. Carlos Condit
9. Benson Henderson
10. Andrey Koreshkov

185lb
1. Luke Rockhold
2. Chris Weidman
3. Anderson Silva
4. Vitor Belfort
5. Michael Bisping
6. Ronaldo Souza
7. Mamed Khalidov
8. Yoel Romero
9. Neil Magny
10. Hector Lombard

205lb
1. Jon Jones
2. Daniel Cormier
3. Ryan Bader
4. Anthony Johnson
5. Glover Teixeira
6. Phil Davis
7. Alexander Gustafsson
8. Quinton Jackson
9. Rashad Evans
10. Liam McGeary

HW
1. Fabricio Werdum
2. Cain Velasquez
3. Stipe Miocic
4. Alistair Overeem
5. Junior dos Santos
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Josh Barnett
8. Travis Browne
9. Sergei Kharitonov
10. Jared Rosholt

P4P
1. Jon Jones
2. Rafael dos Anjos
3. Daniel Cormier
4. Robbie Lawler
5. Donald Cerrone
6. Luke Rockhold
7. Fabricio Werdum
8. Jose Aldo
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Shinya Aoki


Women

115lb
1. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2. Jessica Aguilar
3. Claudia Gadelha
4. Karolina Kowalkiewicz
5. Joanne Calderwood

135lb
1. Ronda Rousey
2. Alexis Davis
3. Miesha Tate
4. Holly Holm
5. Cat Zingano
6. Valentina Shevchenko




AGAIN I moved a few fighters to match their weight class, my list should be better now.
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby philphan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:17 pm

Men

125 lb
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. John Dodson
3. John Lineker
4. Jussier da Silva
5. Henry Cejudo
6. Louis Smolka
7. Ali Bagautinov
8. Zach Makovsky
9. John Moraga
10. Frankie Saenz

135lb
1. Dominick Cruz
2.T.J. Dillashaw
3. Bibiano Fernandes
4. Joseph Benavidez
5. Urijah Faber
6. Renan Barao
7. Jimmie Rivera
8. Aljamain Sterling
9. Marlon Moraes
10. Kyoji Horiguchi

145lb
1. Conor McGregor
2. Jose Aldo
3. Frankie Edgar
4. Chad Mendes
5. Patricio Freire
6. Daniel Straus
7. Max Holloway
8. Tatsuya Kawajiri
9. Ricardo Lamas
10. Pat Curran

155lb
1. Rafael dos Anjos
2. Khabib Nurmagomedov
3. Tony Ferguson
4. Nate Diaz
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Donald Cerrone
7. Will Brooks
8. Shinya Aoki
9. Justin Gaethje
10. Gilbert Melendez

170lb
1. Robbie Lawler
2. Rory Mcdonald
3. Wonderboy
4. Demian Maia
5. Nick Diaz
6. Tyron Woodley
7. Jake Shields
8. Carlos Condit
9. Johny Hendricks
10. Andrey Koreshkov

185lb
1. Luke Rockhold
2. Chris Weidman
3. Michael Bisping
4. Anderson Silva
5. Niel Magney
6. Vitor Belfort
7. Ronaldo Souza
8. Hector Lombard
9. Mamed Khalidov
10. David Branch

205lb
1. Daniel Cormier
2. Bones
3. Teixeira
4. Anthony Johnson
5. Gustafsson
6. OSP
7. Phil Davis
8. Hendo
9. Quinton Jackson
10. Rashad Evans

HW
1. Fabricio Werdum
2. JDS
3. Stipe Miocic
4. Cain
5. Reem
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Hunt
8. Travis Browne
9. Fedor
10. Sergei Kharitonov


P4P
1. Mighty Mouse
2. Robbie Lawler
3. Daniel Cormier
2. Rafael dos Anjos
3. Werdum
4. Nate Diaz
5. Bones Jones
6. Luke Rockhold
7. Dominick Cruz
8. Khabib Nurmagomedov
9. Joseph Benavidez
10. Frankie Edgar


Women

115lb
1. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2. Jessica Aguilar
3. Claudia Gadelha
4. Karolina Kowalkiewicz
5. Joanne Calderwood

135lb
1. Meiesha Tate
2. Ronda R
3. Cyborg
4. Alexis Davis
5. Holly Holm
6. Cat Zingano
7. Valentina Shevchenko
8. Gina
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby Indra » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:45 pm

May

Men
125 lb
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. Joseph Benavidez
3. Henry Cejudo
4. Jussier Formiga
5. Kyoji Horiguchi
6. Wilson Reis
7. Louis Smolka
8. Zach Makovsky
9. Justin Scoggins
10. Sergio Pettis

135lb
1. Dominick Cruz
2. T.J. Dillashaw
3. Urijah Faber
4. Renan Barao
5. Bibiano Fernandes
6. John Dodson
7. Aljamain Sterling
8. Eduardo Dantas
9. John Lineker
10. Jimmie Rivera

145lb
1. Conor Mcgregor
2. Frankie Edgar
3. Jose Aldo
4. Max Holloway
5. Daniel Straus
6. Patricio Freire
7. Chad Mendes
8. Charles Oliveira
9. Ricardo Lamas
10. Daniel Weichel

155lb
1. Rafael Dos Anjos
2. Khabib Nurmagomedov
3. Eddie Alvarez
4. Will Brooks
5. Tony Ferguson
6. Edson Barboza
7. Nate Diaz
8. Anthony Pettis
9. Michael Chiesa
10. Gilbert Melendez


170lb
1. Robbie Lawler
2. Stephen Thompson
3. Johny Hendricks
4. Rory MacDonald
5. Carlos Condit
6. Tyron Woodley
7. Demian Maia
8. Neil Magny
9. Andrey Koreshkov
10. Matt Brown

185lb
1. Luke Rockhold
2. Chris Weidman
3. Yoel Romero
4. Ronaldo Souza
5. Vitor Belfort
6. Lyoto Machida
7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Michael Bisping
9. Robert Whittaker
10. Uriah Hall

205lb
1. Jon "Douche" Jones
2. Daniel Cormier
3. Anthony Johnson
4. Glover Teixeira
5. Phil Davis
6. Ryan Bader
7. Alexander Gustafsson
8. Liam McGeary
9. Rashad Evans
10. Rampage Jackson

HW
1. Fabricio Werdum
2. Cain Velasquez
3. Stipe Miocic
4. Alistair Overeem
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Mark Hunt
7. Andrei Arlovski
8. Travis Browne
9. Ben Rothwell
10. Josh Barnett

P4P
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. Jon Jones
3. Rafael Dos Anjos
4. Luke Rockhold
5. Fabricio Werdum
6. Robbie Lawler
7. Daniel Cormier
8. Dominick Cruz
9. T.J. Dillashaw
10. Chris Weidman

Women

115lb
1. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2. Claudia Gadelha
3. Livia Renata Souza
4. Jessica Aguilar
5. Carla Esparza
6. Rose Namajunas
7. Karolina Kowalkiewicz
8. Mryna Moroz
9. Joanne Calderwood
10. Valerie Letourneau

135lb
1. Miesha Tate
2. Holly Holm
3. Ronda Rousey
4. Alexis Davis
5. Amanda Nunes
6. Julianna Pena
7. Cat Zingano
8. Jessica Eye
9. Tonya Evinger
10. Liz Carmouche
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:44 am

well done. but I have a couple of comments/questions



first of all, we need a standard naming convention, which would help us slice and dice the numbers easier going forward. I recommend we don't use aliases and just straight names: eg. Mauricio Rua not Mauricio Shogun Rua.
We always use first and last name
We use the spelling found on Wikipedia for consistency

second, weight classes, fighters move weight classes. In which class are we ranking them? Is Benavidez 125 or 135? Is Conor McGregor 145 or 170?

lastly, now what?
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby Indra » Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:29 pm

willmma wrote:first of all, we need a standard naming convention, which would help us slice and dice the numbers easier going forward. I recommend we don't use aliases and just straight names: eg. Mauricio Rua not Mauricio Shogun Rua.
We always use first and last name
We use the spelling found on Wikipedia for consistency


Good point, I can go back through my lists when I have time and make them look nice and uniform.

willmma wrote:second, weight classes, fighters move weight classes. In which class are we ranking them? Is Benavidez 125 or 135? Is Conor McGregor 145 or 170?


We might be able use Wikipedia on that one, too.

Example: Benavidez -
Flyweight (2012-present)
Bantamweight (2006-2011)
Featherweight (2008)

So would say Flyweight

Mcgregor -

Featherweight (2008-present)
Lightweight (2008, 2010, 2011)
Welterweight (2016)

So would say Featherweight

Etc...

willmma wrote:lastly, now what?


Well, someone will have to go through and do the numbering and averaging and tie-breaking and stuff. I apologize, but I'm way too lazy for that shit. I can give you guys lists, anything more is going to be up to someone else. If that's a dealbreaker, I understand, I can give my slot to another more industrious user.
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:48 pm

Indra wrote:
willmma wrote:first of all, we need a standard naming convention, which would help us slice and dice the numbers easier going forward. I recommend we don't use aliases and just straight names: eg. Mauricio Rua not Mauricio Shogun Rua.
We always use first and last name
We use the spelling found on Wikipedia for consistency


Good point, I can go back through my lists when I have time and make them look nice and uniform.

willmma wrote:second, weight classes, fighters move weight classes. In which class are we ranking them? Is Benavidez 125 or 135? Is Conor McGregor 145 or 170?


We might be able use Wikipedia on that one, too.

Example: Benavidez -
Flyweight (2012-present)
Bantamweight (2006-2011)
Featherweight (2008)

So would say Flyweight

Mcgregor -

Featherweight (2008-present)
Lightweight (2008, 2010, 2011)
Welterweight (2016)

So would say Featherweight

Etc...

willmma wrote:lastly, now what?


Well, someone will have to go through and do the numbering and averaging and tie-breaking and stuff. I apologize, but I'm way too lazy for that shit. I can give you guys lists, anything more is going to be up to someone else. If that's a dealbreaker, I understand, I can give my slot to another more industrious user.



I'm cool with that.
I think we all need to recheck our lists and make sure all the fighters we are listing are in the correct weight class.
I will put the lists together and come up with final rankings.


let me know when the lists are "good".
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby PBells » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Month- May
Men
125 lb
1. Demetrious Johnson
2. Joseph Benavidez
3. Henry Cejudo
4. Jussier Da Silva
5. Kyoji Horiguchi
6. Ian McCall
7. Zach Makovsky
8. Justin Scoggins
9. John Moraga
10. Dustin Ortiz

135lb
1. Dominick Cruz
2. TJ Dillashaw
3. Raphael Assuncao
4. Urijah Faber
5. Aljamain Sterling
6. Thomas Almeida
7. Michael McDonald
8. Bryan Caraway
9. Takeya Mizugaki
10. Andre Galvao

145lb
1. Conor McGregor
2. Frankie Edgar
3. Jose Aldo
4. Max Holloway
5. Chad Mendes
6. Charles Oliveira
7. Ricardo Lamas
8. Cub Swanson
9. Daniel Straus
10. Patricio Freire

155lb
1. Rafael Dos Anjos
2. Khabib Nurmagomedov
3. Eddie Alvarez
4. Nate Diaz
5. Tony Ferguson
6. Edson Barboza
7. Anthony Pettis
8. Michael Chiesa
9. Beneil Dariush
10. Will Brooks

170lb
1. Robbie Lawler
2. Carlos Condit
3. Stephen Thompson
4. Rory MacDonald
5. Johny Hendricks
6. Tyron Woodley
7. Demian Maia
8. Andre Koreshkov
9. Neil Magny
10. Matt Brown

185lb
1. Luke Rockhold
2. Chris Weidman
3. Yoel Romero
4. Ronaldo Souza
5. Vitor Belfort
6. Michael Bisping
7. Anderson Silva
8. Robert Whittaker
9. Lyoto Machida
10. Gegard Mousasi

205lb
1. Jon Jones
2. Daniel Cormier
3. Anthony Johnson
4. Glover Teixeira
5. Alexander Gustafsson
6. Ovince Saint Preux
7. Ryan Bader
8. Rashad Evans
9. Mauricio Rua
10. Liam McGeary

HW
1. Fabricio Werdum
2. Stipe Miocic
3. Alistair Overeem
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Ben Rothwell
8. Mark Hunt
9. Josh Barnett
10. Vitaly Minakov

P4P
1. Jon Jones
2. Demetrious Johnson
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Rafael Dos Anjos
5. Robbie Lawler
6. Dominick Cruz
7. Luke Rockhold
8. Daniel Cormier
9. Anderson Silva
10. Jose Aldo

Women
115lb
1. Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2. Claudia Gadelha
3. Rose Namajunas
4. Valerie Letourneau
5. Tecia Torres
6. Carla Esparza
7. Maryna Moroz
8. Jessica Penne
9. Karolina Kowalkiewicz
10. Michelle Waterson

135lb
1. Miesha Tate
2. Holly Holm
3. Ronda Rousey
4. Amanda Nunes
5. Cat Zingano
6. Jessica Eye
7. Liz Carmouche
8. Valentina Shevchenko
9. Sara McMann
10. Raquel Pennington
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:02 pm

Tomorrow, last day of the month, when I get some time, I will amalgamate all the lists and post the results here.
Not sure if someone will move the list to the main mma discussion forum.
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby exsanguinator » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:05 pm

willmma wrote:Tomorrow, last day of the month, when I get some time, I will amalgamate all the lists and post the results here.
Not sure if someone will move the list to the main mma discussion forum.


Once you guys are happy with your lists I will copy/paste the list to MMA Discussion. And take all the credit.
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:46 pm

exsanguinator wrote:
willmma wrote:Tomorrow, last day of the month, when I get some time, I will amalgamate all the lists and post the results here.
Not sure if someone will move the list to the main mma discussion forum.


Once you guys are happy with your lists I will copy/paste the list to MMA Discussion. And take all the credit.



Here it is, take all the credit you want bud.
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you'll probably have to answer to it :shock:


Men
125
1 Demetrious Johnson
2 Henry Cejudo
3 Joseph Benavidez
4 Jussier da Silva
5 John Dodson
6 Louis Smolka
7 Zach Makovsky
8 Kyoji Horiguchi
9 Ali Bagautinov
10 John Lineker

135
1 Dominick Cruz
2 T.J.Dillashaw
3 Urijah Faber
4 Bibiano Fernandes
5 Renan Barao
6 Aljamain Sterling
7 Raphael Assuncao
8 Jimmie Rivera
9 Joseph Benavidez
10 John Dodson

145
1 Conor McGregor
2 Jose Aldo
3 Frankie Edgar
4 Chad Mendes
5 Patricio Freire
6 Daniel Straus
7 Max Holloway
8 Ricardo Lamas
9 Charles Oliveira
10 Tatsuya Kawajiri

155
1 Rafael dos Anjos
2 Khabib Nurmagomedov
3 Eddie Alvarez
4 Tony Ferguson
5 Nate Diaz
6 Will Brooks
7 Donald Cerrone
8 Anthony Pettis
9 Edson Barboza
10 Shinya Aoki

170
1 Robbie Lawler
2 Rory MacDonald
3 Johny Hendricks
4 Stephen Thompson
5 Demian Maia
6 Carlos Condit
7 Tyron Woodley
8 Jake Shields
9 Ben Askren
10 Nick Diaz

185
1 Luke Rockhold
2 Chris Weidman
3 Michael Bisping
4 Vitor Belfort
5 Ronaldo Souza
6 Anderson Silva
7 Yoel Romero
8 Hector Lombard
9 Lyoto Machida
10 Niel Magney

205
1 Jon Jones
2 Daniel Cormier
3 Anthony Johnson
4 Glover Teixeira
5 Alexander Gustafsson
6 Ryan Bader
7 Phil Davis
8 Ovince Saint Preux
9 Rashad Evans
10 Yoel Romero

HW
1 Fabricio Werdum
2 Stipe Miocic
3 Cain Velasquez
4 Alistair Overeem
5 Junior dos Santos
6 Andrei Arlovski
7 Mark Hunt
8 Travis Browne
9 Josh Barnett
10 Ben Rothwell

P4P
1 Rafael dos Anjos
2 Jon Jones
3 Robbie Lawler
4 Fabricio Werdum
5 Daniel Cormier
6 Demetrious Johnson
7 Luke Rockhold
8 Dominick Cruz
9 Mighty Mouse
10 Donald Cerrone


Women
125
1 Joanna Jedrzejczyk
2 Claudia Gadelha
3 Jessica Aguilar
4 Karolina Kowalkiewicz
5 Joanne Calderwood
6 Rose Namajunas
7 Carla Esparza
8 Livia Renata Souza
9 Valerie Letourneau
10 Mryna Moroz

135
1 Miesha Tate
2 Ronda Rousey
3 Holly Holm
4 Alexis Davis
5 Cat Zingano
6 Amanda Nunes
7 Valentina Shevchenko
8 Cyborg
9 Jessica Eye
10 Julianna Pena
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby PBells » Sun May 01, 2016 12:06 am

I totally forgot about some really good fighters outside of UFC :lol: :-?
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Sun May 01, 2016 9:46 pm

Well that was a harsh debut. For some reason I was called out by name and called garbage.

Do we need to change our approach?
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby PBells » Sun May 01, 2016 9:50 pm

I kind of expected that, TBH. Rankings are good for stirring the pot no matter what they are. All we need to do is work-out the minor bugs (Romero ranked at 205, Mighty Mouse on the P4P twice, etc.) and keep on.
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Re: New Rankings Thread

Postby willmma » Mon May 02, 2016 11:04 am

PsychoBells wrote:I kind of expected that, TBH. Rankings are good for stirring the pot no matter what they are. All we need to do is work-out the minor bugs (Romero ranked at 205, Mighty Mouse on the P4P twice, etc.) and keep on.



I cleaned up my list some more. Make sure Romero is listed on 185, which moved things around a bit.

I recommend you guys make your fixes as well.
PB, you can go back and add non-UFC fighters where you see fit.

After everyone is done, let me know. I can merge the lists again.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stick with proper full names and not aliases.

There are 11 classes with 10 fighters in each and 4 people contributing. That's 440 names with different scores and different arrangements. I slice and dice the lists and consolidate them using Excel. If the names are different Excel will treat them different. I caught and fixed many variances but I won't catch them all. This would avoid MM showing twice.

I have no issue putting up rankings that people don't necessarily agree with, but it's true these 'minor-bugs' are embarrassing. We can do better. We can have the rankings without the bugs up again soon.

thanks guys.
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