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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby DeceptaCon » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:36 pm

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KingOfPancrase wrote:I love hating on Conor like anyone but get outta here.


Yet all I've seen you do is troll-shield him...

Its doesn't matter which fighter is more overrated, a ref had to save Conor's life twice. In the first fight Nate choked shit down Conor's leg, ref had to save him. Rewatch the 2nd fight, end of round 5 Nate had Conor mounted raining down blows on him until the ref pulled him off and Nate had to help Conor to his feet. In a street fight Nate kills Conor.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby KingOfPancrase » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:38 pm

PBells wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:I love hating on Conor like anyone but get outta here.


Yet all I've seen you do is troll-shield him...

You're being intellectually dishonest by claiming you haven't seen me and Meow clown him together in multiple threads.

But since I'm objective on Conor when I see people say he is more overrated than the Diaz Sisters I must speak.

I have spoken.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby PBells » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:45 pm

KingOfPancrase wrote:You're being intellectually dishonest by claiming you haven't seen me and Meow clown him together in multiple threads.


Right, because I read every post in every topic in every forum here.

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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby ebickmeyer » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:59 am

ThaBlackGuy wrote:They aren't overrated. I've never heard their name in goat discussions or even champ discussions. They just have a lot of fans that love watching them fight regardless of their record. And for good reason


That's because they had their chance several years ago. When Nick was champ in Strikeforce some of his fans thought he had a good chance to take the title from GSP. His fans also believed Nate had a decent shot with Benson.

If you want me to point fingers then very well. Dipset and reasontat are obviously the guys who thought this way the most. They can be a tad rabid in support of them.

I do agree that they've never been in the running for a GOAT discussion.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby MadTitan » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:07 am

DeceptaCon wrote:
PBells wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:I love hating on Conor like anyone but get outta here.


Yet all I've seen you do is troll-shield him...

Its doesn't matter which fighter is more overrated, a ref had to save Conor's life twice. In the first fight Nate choked shit down Conor's leg, ref had to save him. Rewatch the 2nd fight, end of round 5 Nate had Conor mounted raining down blows on him until the ref pulled him off and Nate had to help Conor to his feet. In a street fight Nate kills Conor.
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First fight, Nate came back and won. He beat the FW champion at 170lbs jumping up not one but two weight divisions, which is simply an extremely rare occurrence when it comes to this high level of competition. That's a fact, not making excuses, just pointing out the fact that this was clearly a disadvantage for McGregor being that he'd never fought above 155lbs and so what Nate took the fight on short notice, we see guys win fights taken on short notice a bunch in the history of top shelf MMA. And, so what Conor had a rough time cutting to 145, so did Jose Aldo, Dustin Poirier, the current champ Holloway!! but they all get a pass? Only a casual scumbag would think this way :tdown: . Double standards. Plain and simple.

He then corrects the mistakes he made in the first fight and avenges the loss with a clear UD victory.

Then goes on to become the first UFC fighter to hold belts in two divisions simultaneously, "Both Diaz bro's resume's are better than Conor."

Nick has a solid resume in two weight divisions, but Nate having a better resume than Conor? That's a negative.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:44 am

MadTitan wrote:
DeceptaCon wrote:
PBells wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:I love hating on Conor like anyone but get outta here.


Yet all I've seen you do is troll-shield him...

Its doesn't matter which fighter is more overrated, a ref had to save Conor's life twice. In the first fight Nate choked shit down Conor's leg, ref had to save him. Rewatch the 2nd fight, end of round 5 Nate had Conor mounted raining down blows on him until the ref pulled him off and Nate had to help Conor to his feet. In a street fight Nate kills Conor.
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But this thread isn't about Nate vs. Conor. Butt Fuck it...lets do it:



First fight, Nate came back and won. He beat the FW champion at 170lbs jumping up not one but two weight divisions, which is simply an extremely rare occurrence when it comes to this high level of competition. That's a fact, not making excuses, just pointing out the fact that this was clearly a disadvantage for McGregor being that he'd never fought above 155lbs and so what Nate took the fight on short notice, we see guys win fights taken on short notice a bunch in the history of top shelf MMA. And, so what Conor had a rough time cutting to 145, so did Jose Aldo, Dustin Poirier, the current champ Holloway!! but they all get a pass? Only a casual scumbag would think this way :tdown: . Double standards. Plain and simple.

He then corrects the mistakes he made in the first fight and avenges the loss with a clear UD victory.

Then goes on to become the first UFC fighter to hold belts in two divisions simultaneously, "Both Diaz bro's resume's are better than Conor."

Nick has a solid resume in two weight divisions, but Nate having a better resume than Conor? That's a negative.

I hear you playboy, Conor basically cleaned out the FW division and rose to the occasion against Eddie but it doesnt mean shit when you let Nate basically beat you twice. Nate won Tuf, worked his way all the way to the LW belt unlike Conor but lost. Long story short Nate killed Conor, that brown awkward squirrel looking motherfucker beat your hero let that sink in, I know it burns but thats what happened and nothing can change it.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby philphan » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:20 am

PBells wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:You're being intellectually dishonest by claiming you haven't seen me and Meow clown him together in multiple threads.


Right, because I read every post in every topic in every forum here.

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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby MadTitan » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:11 am

DeceptaCon wrote:I hear you playboy, Conor basically cleaned out the FW division and rose to the occasion against Eddie but it doesnt mean shit when you let Nate basically beat you twice. Nate won Tuf, worked his way all the way to the LW belt unlike Conor but lost. Long story short Nate killed Conor, that brown awkward squirrel looking motherfucker beat your hero let that sink in, I know it burns but thats what happened and nothing can change it.
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Because Nate had a couple shining moments late in the fight = he should have won? Even though Conor significantly outstruck him on the judges cards and never got dropped to the mat by strikes himself. Not once. But Nate "basically" won that fight too?

I bet the Diaz bro's went to school in a classroom with 8 students and 4 teachers and still failed.

Masvidal made Nate Diaz look like he should be bagging fucking groceries :lol: you guys are actually lucky they stopped the fight because he was getting wrecked worse than I've seen in a long time.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby Mr Meow » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:47 am

I think it depends on the context in which you view either the Diaz brothers or Conor

In terms of action fighters, fun promos, not giving a fuck, entertaining fights, etc the Diaz brothers are far from overrated.

In terms of putting on fun fights, promos, hyping up a fight and creating a business out of yourself, Conor is far from overrated.


in terms of how their fans view them. Both the Diaz brothers and Conor are overrated. I think all 3 are a bit overrated in terms of fighting ability in general to be honest. A lot of that comes down to style and timing though. The Diaz brothers would have always struggled to win a title in the UFC because the UFC caters to and has so many high level athletes who can drain out a clock and win rounds via crotch sniffing. Conor was never going to defend a title because he would have to fight guys who weren't Eddie Alvarez who would have been massive matchup problems for a guy with pretty limited cardio and 1 sided boxing

One thing Conor is certainly underrated on is being a racist. :lol: :lol: Guys like Dana straight up cower from admitting it and always obfuscate responsibility away from Conor by saying he was just playing a character. Which as we all know is beta male talk for "he doesn't have the balls to be held accountable for his own actions, kinda like when he got kicked out of team SBG for stealing money and had to have his MOMMY call in the gym and BEG Kavanaugh to take her son back." :lol: :lol:
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby DeceptaCon » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:49 pm

MadTitan wrote:
DeceptaCon wrote:I hear you playboy, Conor basically cleaned out the FW division and rose to the occasion against Eddie but it doesnt mean shit when you let Nate basically beat you twice. Nate won Tuf, worked his way all the way to the LW belt unlike Conor but lost. Long story short Nate killed Conor, that brown awkward squirrel looking motherfucker beat your hero let that sink in, I know it burns but thats what happened and nothing can change it.
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Because Nate had a couple shining moments late in the fight = he should have won? Even though Conor significantly outstruck him on the judges cards and never got dropped to the mat by strikes himself. Not once. But Nate "basically" won that fight too?

I bet the Diaz bro's went to school in a classroom with 8 students and 4 teachers and still failed. :lol: :lol:

Masvidal made Nate Diaz look like he should be bagging fucking groceries :lol: you guys are actually lucky they stopped the fight because he was getting wrecked worse than I've seen in a long time.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby jblaze » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:08 pm

Over rated as top tier fighters. As a draw and putting on a show not so much.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby KingOfPancrase » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:15 pm

PBells wrote:
KingOfPancrase wrote:You're being intellectually dishonest by claiming you haven't seen me and Meow clown him together in multiple threads.


Right, because I read every post in every topic in every forum here.

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Yawn. We both know you've read them. Dork.
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby PBells » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:40 pm

Obviously I didn't
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby ThaBlackGuy » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:12 am

ebickmeyer wrote:
ThaBlackGuy wrote:They aren't overrated. I've never heard their name in goat discussions or even champ discussions. They just have a lot of fans that love watching them fight regardless of their record. And for good reason


That's because they had their chance several years ago. When Nick was champ in Strikeforce some of his fans thought he had a good chance to take the title from GSP. His fans also believed Nate had a decent shot with Benson.

If you want me to point fingers then very well. Dipset and reasontat are obviously the guys who thought this way the most. They can be a tad rabid in support of them.

I do agree that they've never been in the running for a GOAT discussion.



I'd say the Diaz bros have the best fan base ever. U never hear them get outta pocket with their expectations. And they get that realness from Nick and nate. All these fake "stars" with the fake personas lead to fake ass uninformed fans.
example: any of u young bucks that ever threw Connor in goat discussions. Feel for that bs smh

Nick and nate are the two least overrated fighters. They are exactly what we proclaim them to be
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Re: Both Diaz Brothers Always Been Overated

Postby KingOfPancrase » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:23 am

Shuck wrote:Titan & KOP laying the truth smack down.. Bellsy gettn exposed.. Gone too far down the dark path have you, hmmm

You're god damn right.
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