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Postby irishmike357 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:38 pm

HOF FAIL!

Sosa and Bonds both have either admitted to or tested positive for steroids. Clemens has done neither and has been acquitted in a court.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby doyousukadaweena » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:11 pm

irishmike357 wrote:HOF FAIL!

Sosa and Bonds both have either admitted to or tested positive for steroids. Clemens has done neither and has been acquitted in a court.

They juiced in an era of juicing that was fostered by the MLB. These guys saved baseball and now are getting crucified. Popping now is entirely different considering the enforcement is much more ridged so those that use now are likely the minority and are gaining an unfair advantage instead of just keeping up with the curve as was in the past.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby irishmike357 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:20 pm

PorcoBravo wrote:
irishmike357 wrote:HOF FAIL!

Sosa and Bonds both have either admitted to or tested positive for steroids. Clemens has done neither and has been acquitted in a court.

They juiced in an era of juicing that was fostered by the MLB. These guys saved baseball and now are getting crucified. Popping now is entirely different considering the enforcement is much more ridged so those that use now are likely the minority and are gaining an unfair advantage instead of just keeping up with the curve as was in the past.

I honestly think this vote would have been much different if Bonds did not break the home run record. They are punishing him for that. It really puts a black eye on the sport that a roider holds the best record in baseball.

Not sure why Clemens didn't get in.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby doyousukadaweena » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:24 pm

irishmike357 wrote:
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irishmike357 wrote:HOF FAIL!

Sosa and Bonds both have either admitted to or tested positive for steroids. Clemens has done neither and has been acquitted in a court.

They juiced in an era of juicing that was fostered by the MLB. These guys saved baseball and now are getting crucified. Popping now is entirely different considering the enforcement is much more ridged so those that use now are likely the minority and are gaining an unfair advantage instead of just keeping up with the curve as was in the past.

I honestly think this vote would have been much different if Bonds did not break the home run record. They are punishing him for that. It really puts a black eye on the sport that a roider holds the best record in baseball.

Not sure why Clemens didn't get in.

They should have all made it IMO. Fuck it. Throw an asterisk if it makes them feel better about it.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby irishmike357 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:27 pm

PorcoBravo wrote:They should have all made it IMO. Fuck it. Throw an asterisk if it makes them feel better about it.

I knew they wouldn't get in. Not even a little surprised. The baseball HOF is a fucking joke. They honestly see nothing wrong with not voting a guy in his first year because "he is not a first ballot HOFer" WTF. Dumb asses.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby doyousukadaweena » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:29 pm

irishmike357 wrote:
PorcoBravo wrote:They should have all made it IMO. Fuck it. Throw an asterisk if it makes them feel better about it.

I knew they wouldn't get in. Not even a little surprised. The baseball HOF is a fucking joke. They honestly see nothing wrong with not voting a guy in his first year because "he is not a first ballot HOFer" WTF. Dumb asses.

It's all queer sports writers that probably have a moral stick up their asses yet are probably masterbating to kiddie porn in their spare time.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby azbball55 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:49 pm

the system for the mlb hof is undoubtedly flawed. I saw in the mma hof post about Kenny Lofton and the fact that he isnt even going to stay on the ballot? Ridiculous.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby Cornbread Mafia » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:20 am

Bonds was a first ballet HOFer before he stuck the first needle in his ass. He was the definition of a five tool player with the pirates.

Some day the writers are going to have to get off their high horse and allow the steroid era guys in because if they don't we will have a generation of players not in the HOF because the best of that era were all on something. The writers are partially to blame themselves for the whole thing if you think about it. They knew players were cheating yet most said nothing about it until it was too late.

I agree about Pete Rose too. He should be in but won't be until he dies but he did it to himself.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby ipizzle3 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:29 pm

I used to love baseball, but it died. Didn't Bonds pass every drug test except the eye test lol? Also Clemens totally took peds, his fastball picked right back up to when he was in his prime, his bestfriend Andy P even said he saw him do it.
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Re: Baseball HOF discussion

Postby Cornbread Mafia » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:17 am

ipizzle3 wrote:I used to love baseball, but it died. Didn't Bonds pass every drug test except the eye test lol? Also Clemens totally took peds, his fastball picked right back up to when he was in his prime, his bestfriend Andy P even said he saw him do it.

Clemens passed every test too. The Balco investigation by the Feds proved Bonds took PED's but his defense was he didn't know it was a PED because he didn't inject anything and he didn't realize the cream he was applying or the clear he was taking sublingualy were PED's which is bullshit but its the story he is sticking to.

Personally I don't mind the steroid era because both the hitters and pitchers were taking them so it pretty much evened out.

Clemons and Bonds both should be in the HOF and should be first ballet HOFers because they were the best of all the players who were taking roids.
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