DreadLobster wrote:vampxx24 wrote:as of today i would have to give it 70/30 cain, fedor just seems to not be able to keep up with modern hws...cains ability to strike plus his size and wrestling advantage i think would just be too much. cain would prob be the most diverse fighter fedor has ever fought... even going back to fedors prime/golden days fedor never fought someone who was so well rounded. if you look at who he fought, they were mainly 1 discipline guys who excelled at the point....
I'm obviously not disagreeing with the fact that Fedor has declined, but what "modern" HW's?
Werdum has been around since PRIDE, and Fedor could have fought him like he did Monson and won easily. Bigfoot is the only person he's been outstruck by who is even relatively new, but despite what most haters will tell you, Fedor out struck Bigfoot on the feet and won round one (according to the judges). And he was the one who scored a knockdown on Hendo, not the other way around. Hendo caught him on the ground in a scramble. Had nothing to do with Fedor's striking. And also, obviously, Hendo is not by any means a "modern HW."
So while yes, its possible he's slowed down a bit, and he was DEFINITELY head hunting against Rogers and Bigfoot, he still hasn't really been out struck by anyone (on his feet at least). His striking was looking fantastic going in to the Hendo fight, but then he fought like a idiot so its hard to say. He also seems to be adding kicks into his arsenal. Not just weak little kicks either, he broke Monson's leg.
All in all, I'd say his striking is the one aspect of his game that's still reliable when he uses his head and doesn't just start swinging like a drunken mad man.
I'd say if anything its his grappling that has gotten sloppy. Its what cost him all three of his losses.
His last 3 losses actually upset me more due to the way he fought them, than the results. You have a point there, his grappling and general ground game, wich used to be his deadliest weapon (I don´t give a shit about what anybody could say nowadays, his g´n´p is LEGENDARY), became his weak point in those fights:
-Jumped 3 times on Werdum´s guard. Actually he caught Fedor on the triangle because he Fedor gave him the time to recover from the knockdown.
-In Silva´s fight, he was not able to escape from the bottom, when we have see him doing it millions of times. Dam, I remember the first Coleman fight, the way he pulled the armbar from the bottom was AMAZING. I won´t deny the effectiveness and perfect game there from Silva, changing his top position when Emelianenko tried to escape. There is a very interesting video from two of the younger Gracies guys explaining the technique Bigfoot used to keep Fedor there, surely you already watch it.Eventhough, Bigfoot was more gassed than him prior to the 3rd, thats why I hated what the doctor did there. Please, sure he was taking a hard beating in the 2nd,dam, but he survived (which I´m sure not any other single human beign would had been able to) and we have seen fighters in a worst situation a lot of times, hurted worse, and letting the fight going on, win the fight in the end.Unveliable and unfair. This fight talks more about Fedor´s courage, heart, chin, will, and fighting spirit, than any other thing.
-In the Henderson fight, Fedor was the one getting the best part of the exchanges, and the one who knocked down Dan, not the opposite. Haters can say whatever they want. There is the video. But man, I couldn´t believe the way Fedor let him scramble from the bottom(please man, you get the job almost done, you just needed to finish!), and even worse, how he gave him near 2 seconds to land the H-bomb. He was almost slower in his reaction there than to recover from the flashy knockdown from Hendo
. He likely understimated Henderson, and payed the price.Props to Henderson and his TRT (suspicious)
I´m not going to reply any off-topic issue, it doesn´t matter who claim it. Break my word once is more than enough. My appologies again. Thanks to everyone who is providing commoun sense and 
, hate to say it.
Maybe he will look less spectacular, ala GSP (which would be indeed so sad, because he always put on exciting fights 
<---- just in case anyone didn't get the sarcasm.
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