Official Religion Thread

[philphan]

Animals have better morals than us.

Except hyenas.

I wonder if a hyena has ever fucked a dead hyena for the enjoyment of it? We all know some people do. Somehow we are the superior animal though.

Has a hyena ever invented a cure for small pox, or put a hyena on the moon? Ill take necrophilia if it comes with the mastery of science.

Have you?

[MurderfaceMMA]

^ The superior species that I belong to has.

[PsychoBells]

But then that same species uses shady practices to hike prices and limit availability of said vaccine and puts men on the moon for military purposes.

[MurderfaceMMA]

But then that same species uses shady practices to hike prices and limit availability of said vaccine and puts men on the moon for military purposes.

I doubt the boys at NASA gave 2 shits about the possible military applications. Fortunately they did put in all that work, which makes it possible for me to post this message from my phone.

[Brickbat]

I like turtles. . .

[FranklinsTower]

Last one-- there are certain monkeys in south america that catch and lick frogs that secret psychedelic drugs. The whole species of monkeys does it to get fucking high! I have often wondered about the evolutionary trajectory of that fucking species of monkey. What does that look like in 100,000 years?

There are some more "far-out" scientists that speculate that prehistoric primates' interaction with drugs created what would become human consciousness, self-awareness, creativity, individuality, etc. A symbiotic relationship with hallucinogenic mushrooms lead to the evolution of the modern man, supposedly!

I could totally see that happening, that's why the man keeps us down by making all of the "good" drugs illegal and classifies them into various categories:

Class A Ecstasy, LSD, heroin, cocaine, crack, magic mushrooms, amphetamines (if prepared for injection). Up to seven years in prison or an unlimited fine or both. Up to life in prison or an unlimited fine or both.

Class B Amphetamines, Cannabis, Methylphenidate (Ritalin), Pholcodine. Up to five years in prison or an unlimited fine or both. Up to 14 years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.

Class C Tranquilisers, some painkillers, Gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB), Ketamine. Up to two years in prison or an unlimited fine or both. Up to 14 years in prison or an unlimited fine or both.

Notice how the drugs that promote higher congnitive thinking and awareness are in the higher classes which receive less jail time. These drugs are openly enjoyed by the rich and elite w/o any consequences. Crack just got moved up to Class A not long ago b/c of the demographic group that Crack has been targeted/sold to by the Reagan admin, it has now came to light and now small amounts of Crack are considered Class A. Basically the the class system is bullshit and basically just don't get caught with the wrong shit and the wrong amount, the devil is in the details. . . The fact that Cannabis is Class B just proves the fact that it is the biggest threat to the man. This plant alone could free mankind/society of most psychological, mental, and economic bondage, its God's green gift to mankind, it has so many uses and is so easy to grow it could easily fast-word mankind in all kind of directions if it were made legal and processed to its full potential. We would have a Green Industrial Revolution of sorts from cheaper fabric, medications, oils, less crime, more brownies, etc. . .

I don't know about that man. I counsel people for a living-- and what I have heard from countless people, wives, husbands and children of regular pot smokers says exactly the opposite of what you just said.

They all report feeling alone as if the pot user weren't really there, feeling abandoned and not cared about, children often display the symptoms of a neglectful parent. Also the pot user, while possibly making good money sometimes in very creative ways, tends to not develop at all emotionally even though they think they do because they feel so "mellow."

All in all I think pot is a serious block to emotional growth and healthy relationships. I both partners do it and they don't have children then I guess that is a different story.

The children of marijuana users that I have counseled were really messed up in lots of different twisted ways...

[Poop Cannon]

People who talk about "plants that could free mankind" in relation to recreational (and often excessive) use of a drug made from said plant are motherfucking ridiculous, and deserve ridicule if even ridicule.

Yeah it helps with glaucoma and gets you fucked up, whoopee. It doesn't make you enlightened, special or cognitively more aware of anything, it gets you fucked up. It's not a sin to like being fucked up but you don't have to put yourself on a pedestal over it.

[TheAssassin]

The children of marijuana users that I have counseled were really messed up in lots of different twisted ways...

Maybe it's because they've been told their entire life that their parents are criminals and actively killing themselves with their dangerous substance abuse.

[FranklinsTower]

The children of marijuana users that I have counseled were really messed up in lots of different twisted ways...

Maybe it's because they've been told their entire life that their parents are criminals and actively killing themselves with their dangerous substance abuse.

No its because they grew up and developed and experienced life the way it actually is, but when they turned to their primary care giver the lights weren't on and no one was home, their accurate understanding of things were not coroberated. They were not even operating on the same plane. This made the child feel emotionally neglected leading to a life long feeling of not being cared for or understood. or on the darker side of it, seeing their primary care giver act and react to life in ways that did not resonate emotionally or cognitively with the child caused the child to not trust themselves, what they saw, felt, thought, or intuited. The child learned a deep distrust of their own perception of reality and this led to a high degree of poor decision making and profound insecurity.

That is part of the story at least, there is more....

But since this is a religion thread and since the kind of counsel I give is spiritual counsel then I better insert that these people who have been damaged by being married to or raised by a marijuana abuser often are able to turn their lives around with the help of God.

[TheAssassin]

I didn't know people who smoked weed were actually full-time zombies incapable of being good parents. I also didn't know that marijuana completely warms your sense of reality and makes you unable to communicate realistically with 5 year olds.

Obviously if you let smoking marijuana take control of your life you won't be productive in any aspect, least of all one that's as time intensive as raising kids. That's the truth with literally anything one can use in excess, not just drugs. If you don't care enough about your children to realize you can't sit around and get high all day, then you're going to be just as bad a parent off the weed than on it, and maybe even worse.

I've known many kids who's parents smoked weed when they were young and still do. They all turned out fine because their parents were good parents and realized that their responsibilities towards their children was more important than their desire for self gratification. They were/are good parents because they were willing to make sacrifices.

It's not the weed that makes someone a shitty parent, it's someone's character.

[FranklinsTower]

I didn't know people who smoked weed were actually full-time zombies incapable of being good parents. I also didn't know that marijuana completely warms your sense of reality and makes you unable to communicate realistically with 5 year olds.

Obviously if you let smoking marijuana take control of your life you won't be productive in any aspect, least of all one that's as time intensive as raising kids. That's the truth with literally anything one can use in excess, not just drugs. If you don't care enough about your children to realize you can't sit around and get high all day, then you're going to be just as bad a parent off the weed than on it, and maybe even worse.

I've known many kids who's parents smoked weed when they were young and still do. They all turned out fine because their parents were good parents and realized that their responsibilities towards their children was more important than their desire for self gratification. They were/are good parents because they were willing to make sacrifices.

It's not the weed that makes someone a shitty parent, it's someone's character.

You made some valid points. However if you smoke pot your not there for that whole day. Also there are plenty of developmental psychologists who postulate that it takes about three days after you smoke pot for the emotional centers of the brain to start functioning fully again. I agree fully with that. So at twice a week one could argue that you grow emotionally about a day in seven. Not a good recipe for raising kids in my opinion.

The parents of the people I have worked with were sometimes exceptionally high functioning-- but that did not translate to emotional maturity.

In the archive of The Catalyst magazine SLC Utah, you can find a ten part series on this exact subject.

Also, a five year old is absorbing everything from the parent, not just ideas and information but entire attitudes and outlooks, even moods.

A neuroscientist with a map of your brain activity in hand could pick you mom and dad out of a hundred other scans because they will be so alike. Drug use shows up in these scans.

[TRL]

It's not the weed that makes someone a shitty parent, it's someone's character.

one thing we can agree on.

bob marley said it best. herb reveals yourself to yourself.

[PsychoBells]

People who talk about "plants that could free mankind" in relation to recreational (and often excessive) use of a drug made from said plant are motherfucking ridiculous, and deserve ridicule if even ridicule.

Yeah it helps with glaucoma and gets you fucked up, whoopee. It doesn't make you enlightened, special or cognitively more aware of anything, it gets you fucked up. It's not a sin to like being fucked up but you don't have to put yourself on a pedestal over it.

But without weed, music literally wouldn't exist!!11! ...wait a minute...

[MiniMan]

People who talk about "plants that could free mankind" in relation to recreational (and often excessive) use of a drug made from said plant are motherfucking ridiculous, and deserve ridicule if even ridicule.

Yeah it helps with glaucoma and gets you fucked up, whoopee. It doesn't make you enlightened, special or cognitively more aware of anything, it gets you fucked up. It's not a sin to like being fucked up but you don't have to put yourself on a pedestal over it.

I love this post.

I love weed too.

[Brickbat]

People who talk about "plants that could free mankind" in relation to recreational (and often excessive) use of a drug made from said plant are motherfucking ridiculous, and deserve ridicule if even ridicule.

Yeah it helps with glaucoma and gets you fucked up, whoopee. It doesn't make you enlightened, special or cognitively more aware of anything, it gets you fucked up. It's not a sin to like being fucked up but you don't have to put yourself on a pedestal over it.

I love this post.

I love weed too.

like with anything that is abused it can lead to negative social and emotional side effects, IMO its still a fucking medicinal plant that when used correctly can be a positive and shouldn't be demonized and held in the same regard as other "illegal" man-made synthesized drugs/chemicals. . .