"I mindlessly bought into the hype and now I'm mad."

[Lamer]

It sucks for Lombard that he can't get a tune-up fight inside the octagon like the majority of fighters do because he is ranked in the top 10's.

Except he just lost his tune up fight.

Alot of hype plus the co-main event equals alot of pressure.

Excuses equal excuses.


You said it sucked he didn't get a tune up fight, he did...and lost it.

[g7721]

if you consider him a "can" then you are using that term far too loosely. yea, his striking defense sucks. but he still has big time power and is a very strong grappler, something we havent seen in his last couple fights because he was fighting over good grapplers. is he a legit title contender? no, i dont think so. but what he is is a big, strong guy with KO power, a good chin, and good grappling that could pose a problem to several of the top 10 MW's.

like i said, if you consider him a can then you are throwing the term around too easily.[/quote]

Honestly. Who in the top ten do you think Boestch would beat 100/100. Fuck that. 50/100? No one. Why? Because his skill set is horrible. Honestly. Jay fucking Silva stopped Grove, Boestch couldn't even manage that. I don't think I'm using can loosely here at all, that's exactly what Boestch is. His skills are extremely sub-par. The only thing impressive about him is his ability to eat shots, that's it. He pulled off a big upset vs Okami, good for him, every dog has his day. But to think he's a threat to anyone? I mean, he's a threat in that he can throw a punch and everyone will go to sleep if hit hard enough, but does he legit have the skills to hang with the "top dogs" no. Not at all.[/quote]

mark munoz - wouldnt be able to take boestch down, would turn into a slug fest, a 50/50 kinda fight

vitor belfort - could take vitor down and possibly win a UD, or are you saying an out of shape anthony johnson is a better grappler then boestch?

brian stann - has shown to have bad TDD, could get grapple fucked

rich franklin - could grapple fuck him, assuming his wrestling is at least as good as forest griffens

alan belcher - i am a huge fan of belcher, but belcher hasn't faced a strong wrestler in YEARS, boestch's grappling could cause him problems

well there are 5 guys that boestch could cause problems for, any more questions?[/quote]

i agree 100% tim would have a good chance in all of those fights. you could also add.....

Bisping - bisping wont ko him most likely, he dosent have the ko power. tim has the power to really hurt him if he connects and strong enough wrestling to win the grappling contest. Overal i see bisping winning but it would be very close and tim has more than enough ways to win

Leben - Tim's standup could easily give leben fits in route to a ud, especially with the grappling advantage tim would have here

[DPino51]

if you consider him a "can" then you are using that term far too loosely. yea, his striking defense sucks. but he still has big time power and is a very strong grappler, something we havent seen in his last couple fights because he was fighting over good grapplers. is he a legit title contender? no, i dont think so. but what he is is a big, strong guy with KO power, a good chin, and good grappling that could pose a problem to several of the top 10 MW's.

like i said, if you consider him a can then you are throwing the term around too easily.

Honestly. Who in the top ten do you think Boestch would beat 100/100. Fuck that. 50/100? No one. Why? Because his skill set is horrible. Honestly. Jay fucking Silva stopped Grove, Boestch couldn't even manage that. I don't think I'm using can loosely here at all, that's exactly what Boestch is. His skills are extremely sub-par. The only thing impressive about him is his ability to eat shots, that's it. He pulled off a big upset vs Okami, good for him, every dog has his day. But to think he's a threat to anyone? I mean, he's a threat in that he can throw a punch and everyone will go to sleep if hit hard enough, but does he legit have the skills to hang with the "top dogs" no. Not at all.[/quote]

mark munoz - wouldnt be able to take boestch down, would turn into a slug fest, a 50/50 kinda fight

vitor belfort - could take vitor down and possibly win a UD, or are you saying an out of shape anthony johnson is a better grappler then boestch?

brian stann - has shown to have bad TDD, could get grapple fucked

rich franklin - could grapple fuck him, assuming his wrestling is at least as good as forest griffens

alan belcher - i am a huge fan of belcher, but belcher hasn't faced a strong wrestler in YEARS, boestch's grappling could cause him problems

well there are 5 guys that boestch could cause problems for, any more questions?[/quote]

i agree 100% tim would have a good chance in all of those fights. you could also add.....

Bisping - bisping wont ko him most likely, he dosent have the ko power. tim has the power to really hurt him if he connects and strong enough wrestling to win the grappling contest. Overal i see bisping winning but it would be very close and tim has more than enough ways to win

Leben - Tim's standup could easily give leben fits in route to a ud, especially with the grappling advantage tim would have here[/quote]

yea i think Bisping would face the same threat okami did; he would pick him apart standing and defend the takedowns but wouldn't be able to stop him and run the risk of having to stand and trade with a guy with big time power for 15 minutes.

[WarDrako]

Dude Lombard was robbed! Boetsch did NOTHING except land some sporadic leg kicks..

And for those who won't watch Lombard for this performance, your fools. Had one of those hard fucking punches landed flush you could bet your ass Lombard would've went gorillas on Boetsch!

Lombard vs Toquinho

[walex87]

I can't believe someone would suggest lombard is a "can". He under-performed. I am not suggesting he would beat boetsch either. But some people need to respect people more, these guys are good fighters, and i can't wait for either of the to fight again. sometimes people freeze when all their life expectations are coming to a head, back off the man(lombard) he had a lot on his shoulders.

[gkb]

Yup. I'm the dumbass here. The bro who thought poor automatically meant I was talking about his monetary status is clearly the smart one here. You got me.

It was a fucking joke bro quit talking about it your just making yourself look even more dumb.

Care to show me any evidence of it being a joke originally? If you can't, I think it's safe to assume that it wasn't a joke until I pointed out that you were a downy clowny, then it became "OH BROZ I WUZ JUS KEDDING, U A DUMASS LOLOLOLOLOL"



Honestly bro, be MORE of a faggot, I dare you.

Ok you got me I seriously thought you were talking about his monetary status so im just such a dumbass what was I thinking?

Just for the record, I saw the humor in your post. There was at least one other person who did, as well.

With that said, I am in complete agreement with Lamer's comments about Boetsch.

[IKnowuWannaBeMe]

Not really buying into hype to expect someone to crush the can that is Tim Boetsch.

to put it simply, boestch is not a can.

Yeah he is.

Does that mean Okami is a can as well?

[Barg]

Everyone except Anderson are cans.

[jjmmajkd]

Everyone except Anderson are cans.

MW division

[Mikal]

Everyone except Anderson are cans.

MW division

Except the MW division has about half the actual amount of cans in that photo



But seriously, why is wanting an exciting new fighter to do well in the UFC always disregarded as "OMG HYPE" when they lose? No one thought Lombard was going to destroy Silva, no one thought Shields was going to beat GSP, and no one thought Bigfoot Silva was going to run train on the HW division. It's not buying into hype, it's wanting more talent in the divisions. Everyone is so confrontational about everything rofl. It's like.. if you're a fan of a guy coming into a new division, or at the very least want to see him do well, the fans of the champion of that division get threatened and go into attack mode.

[jjmmajkd]

Everyone except Anderson are cans.

MW division

Except the MW division has about half the actual amount of cans in that photo

I couldn't find a single row of cans, so i went with the next best thing

[rattlestick]

if lombard had a greater sense of urgency and his corner would have pushed him to fight instead of telling him he was winning he would have taken this fight with ease.

he's still a very dangerous fighter. surely better than Boetsch and i think he could do well against quite a few top MW's but.. he's prob. not good enough to beat the spider.

[pithikos]

Everyone except Anderson are cans.

MW division

Except the MW division has about half the actual amount of cans in that photo



But seriously, why is wanting an exciting new fighter to do well in the UFC always disregarded as "OMG HYPE" when they lose? No one thought Lombard was going to destroy Silva, no one thought Shields was going to beat GSP, and no one thought Bigfoot Silva was going to run train on the HW division. It's not buying into hype, it's wanting more talent in the divisions. Everyone is so confrontational about everything rofl. It's like.. if you're a fan of a guy coming into a new division, or at the very least want to see him do well, the fans of the champion of that division get threatened and go into attack mode.

the fans of the champion of that division get threatened and go into attack mode.

Stop trying to get back at Silva for beating your phael. And no Lombard is not a can and neither is Boetch.

[PsychoBells]

Lombard is the Nick Diaz of MW.

[irishmike357]

Discuss, people who will apparently "never watch Lombard again."

Those same people apparently never watched him to begin with because they though "Lombard would rush him and charge in there like it was Iwo Jima and blitzkrieg his ass like a French town in WW2"