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Lesnar's streak in UFC or Shogun's 05 GP run..?

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who's 4 win run was more impressive?

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Re: Lesnar's streak in UFC or Shogun's 05 GP run..?

Postby TommytwoCents » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:48 pm

Lesnar easy he knew dick about mma and beat acouple solid guys
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Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:50 pm

Neither are as impressive as....

Jake O'Brien
Matt Hamill (L= dirty cheater)
Brandon Vera
Vladimir Matyushenko
Ryan Bader

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Postby PsychoBells » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:51 pm

I think Chris Leben -> title shot is my favorite
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Postby TommytwoCents » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:52 pm

philphan wrote:Neither are as impressive as....

Jake O'Brien
Matt Hamill (L= dirty cheater)
Brandon Vera
Vladimir Matyushenko
Ryan Bader

:P

what was their best fou wins in a row
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Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:54 pm

PsychoBells wrote:I think Chris Leben -> title shot is my favorite


That is a good one, maybe they counted all the over hype as two fights. :lol:
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Postby PsychoBells » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:54 pm

Lesnar ducked Big Nog and a Mir rematch and was gifted the real title from fighting Old Man Couture while Mir and Nog fought for the interim belt. What a joke company. :lol:
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Postby perm85 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:59 pm

I guess it might just be because I dont like chestner but yea he might have had a 4 fight win streak over some solid dudes besides herring but it just really didnt impress me look at lesners record and look at shogun's
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Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:59 pm

Asurah wrote:new thread concept: whose submission to strikes was more embarrassing, Shogun (Jones) or Lesnar (Cain)?


We could also try: Which champ should grow some balls and move up to fight the champ they are scared of. :P
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Postby PsychoBells » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:00 pm

Asurah wrote:new thread concept: whose submission to strikes was more embarrassing, Shogun (Jones) or Lesnar (Cain)?


I choose Lesnar because he was screaming "STOOOOOOOOOP!!!!" from what Dana and Bruce Buffer said. :lol:
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Postby IKnowuWannaBeMe » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:00 pm

Asurah wrote:So, who's 4 fight run did you find more impressive between the two?

few things to keep in mind:

over the period in question, both men won 4 fights

Shogun def. Rampage, Lil Nog, Overeem & Arona - the last two were in a single evening, the entire thing was an individual tournament that in total spanned FOUR MONTHS. Unless I'm mistaken, all were top 10 at the time except for Overeem.

Lesnar def. Herring, Couture, Mir, Carwin - this was over a period of TWO YEARS, only Herring was regarded as a non-top 10 at the time. In this period Lesnar won a title and defended it twice.

I think Shogun beating said guys in such a short period in itself gives him an edge, but to counter that you have to remember that Lesnar began that run with only 2 fights experience, Shogun started his with 9 or so. As a side note, both men lost the following fight after these wins (not especially relevant though).

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Wow anything to try and discredit Shogun huh?
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Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:02 pm

Asurah wrote:
philphan wrote:
Asurah wrote:new thread concept: whose submission to strikes was more embarrassing, Shogun (Jones) or Lesnar (Cain)?


We could also try: Which champ should grow some balls and move up to fight the champ they are scared of. :P


who did you have in mind?


I'm going Spider for sure, what a p4p legend. Scared of Jones.

Jones going up for JDS to show us his scary talent. Scared of JDS.

And Aldo needs to go up to 155 and show his shit against bendo. He would have a better shot at frankie tho.

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Postby IKnowuWannaBeMe » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:04 pm

Asurah wrote:
IKnowuWannaBeMe wrote:Wow anything to try and discredit Shogun huh?


what? I'm comparing two different strings of wins - vote for the one you like more.


I am curious as to why you think both of these runs were jokes? I think Lesnar's was because Herring was nowhere near a top 15 HW anymore and Couture was over the hill. Shogun however beat 4 top 10 guys in the LHW division. I really cannot see the joke here.
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Re: Lesnar's streak in UFC or Shogun's 05 GP run..?

Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:05 pm

IKnowuWannaBeMe wrote:
Asurah wrote:So, who's 4 fight run did you find more impressive between the two?

few things to keep in mind:

over the period in question, both men won 4 fights

Shogun def. Rampage, Lil Nog, Overeem & Arona - the last two were in a single evening, the entire thing was an individual tournament that in total spanned FOUR MONTHS. Unless I'm mistaken, all were top 10 at the time except for Overeem.

Lesnar def. Herring, Couture, Mir, Carwin - this was over a period of TWO YEARS, only Herring was regarded as a non-top 10 at the time. In this period Lesnar won a title and defended it twice.

I think Shogun beating said guys in such a short period in itself gives him an edge, but to counter that you have to remember that Lesnar began that run with only 2 fights experience, Shogun started his with 9 or so. As a side note, both men lost the following fight after these wins (not especially relevant though).

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Wow anything to try and discredit Shogun huh?


It's a slow night and he is bored. :lol:
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Postby PsychoBells » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:05 pm

Lesnar's run is very interesting. He went from a relatively nobody in MMA to the UFC's biggest draw to retired just like that. I guess if Lesnar's and Shogun's runs were fires, Lesnar's would be a hydrogen balloon being ignited while Shogun's is more like building a fire for a grill.
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Re: Lesnar's streak in UFC or Shogun's 05 GP run..?

Postby philphan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:06 pm

Asurah wrote:
perm85 wrote:I guess it might just be because I dont like chestner but yea he might have had a 4 fight win streak over some solid dudes besides herring but it just really didnt impress me look at lesners record and look at shogun's


Lesnar's overall record isn't nearly as extensive as Shogun but his strength of schedule is quite impressive

that's kind of the point of this poll though - obviously 6ish grand total fights won't stand up to 26, we're just comparing a highlight of their respective careers.

philphan wrote:I'm going Spider for sure, what a p4p legend. Scared of Jones.

Jones going up for JDS to show us his scary talent. Scared of JDS.

And Aldo needs to go up to 155 and show his shit against bendo. He would have a better shot at frankie tho.

Just to name a few


interesting, although those men fighting is contingent upon actual weight class jumping which might be out of the realm of reasonable in the first place


All of them can make weight, Dana would love to see them happen, so what are they scared of?
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