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Postby CroCopFan92 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:27 am

Does anyone agree that the UFC really need to up their game when it comes to how they make the arena's look? It's frustrated me for a while but after watching how good the MGM looked this past weekend compared to how a UFC event usually looks it just blows the UFC out of the water. The main event should feel special & ring entrances are a big part of it, cutting the lights out just doesn't cut it anymore.

If you hadn't watched any of the 24/7's or been taken in by the hype for that fight & were watching it without any sort of real interest after seeing the entrances alone of Pacman & Bradley you would instantly be invested in the fight by how good the arena/atmosphere looked. The MGM on Saturday looked & sounded like it held 55,000 unlike when the UFC was at the Rogers Centre. Just compare these entrances, all held at the MGM;






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Postby irishmike357 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:40 am

Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby CroCopFan92 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:50 am

irishmike357 wrote:Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.


One of the reason's Pride stuck out so much was because of the emphasis they put on the presentation, if your paying a lot of Money for PPV you want to be entertained, maybe if your watching it through a stream you don't care as much. Plus the entrance's are going to happen regardless so why not make the most out of them?
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby BerzerkerJr » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:27 am

I hafto say that I find myself more amused and satisfied about watching live boxing than mma. I don't agree at all with irishmike and I think they certainly should. Offcourse the quality of the entertainment the fights in the UFC is top notch,
but go and watch mma in smaller orgs and compare it to boxing's entertainment value and youll see the diffrence IMO. But then again I'm a big fan of boxing so it makes my judgement dellusional. I find the comfort both in service and estetics for the fans and people paying to see the fights live very important where boxing certantly has an edge.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby irishmike357 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:35 am

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irishmike357 wrote:Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.


One of the reason's Pride stuck out so much was because of the emphasis they put on the presentation, if your paying a lot of Money for PPV you want to be entertained, maybe if your watching it through a stream you don't care as much. Plus the entrance's are going to happen regardless so why not make the most out of them?

The entrances in Pride were cool, but that is not what I miss about Pride, it was the fights. It is funny because during the mma fights the other night I was actually thinking "why does it take so long to walk to the cage, I would just walk the fuck out there; these guys are taking for ever". So yeah that pretty much sums it up for me, get out there and fight.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby SamuraixJack » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:36 am

difference is with boxing ppv's you have only about 6-8 fighters on a card/event. With MMA ppv's, you have at least double the amount of dudes on a card. though it would be excitin, it be too costly to have that much money bein spent on entrances.

maybe for the co-main and main event, but not for every dude on the card.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby irishmike357 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:53 am

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that's the truth - I always find myself wishing the walkouts were much faster, it already takes so long with the elaborate intros and what not once they reach the cage and get the pat down/vaseline/etc and all that. it's too bad they aren't quicker, if anything.

Yeah, and on the free cards I am always nervous they will cut to another commercial break AGAIN.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby AnotherRandommGuy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:12 pm

irishmike357 wrote:Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.

just pointing out boxing doesn't need it usually the main eventers or one of them is already a good draw it just adds a nice feel to it and the entrance and not all boxing fights end in a 12 round dec just letting you know and also most MMA fights seem to be getting boring and rather end in more decisions too, hell 7 last night, seems you are not a boxing fan so I don't know why you made this comment in the first place
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby irishmike357 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:14 pm

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irishmike357 wrote:Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.

just pointing out boxing doesn't need it usually the main eventers or one of them is already a good draw it just adds a nice feel to it and the entrance and not all boxing fights end in a 12 round dec just letting you know and also most MMA fights seem to be getting boring and rather end in more decisions too, hell 7 last night, seems you are not a boxing fan so I don't know why you made this comment in the first place

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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby Fearless6691 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:18 pm

Asurah wrote:
irishmike357 wrote:
CroCopFan92 wrote:
irishmike357 wrote:Eh. I could honestly care less about what the arena looks like. I know there are a lot of boxing fans on here but IMO boxing needs all of that because the main event is going to be a 12 round fight (wall n stall/lay n pray in MMA terms) and go to decision. Were as MMA is going to put on a more interesting night of fights.


One of the reason's Pride stuck out so much was because of the emphasis they put on the presentation, if your paying a lot of Money for PPV you want to be entertained, maybe if your watching it through a stream you don't care as much. Plus the entrance's are going to happen regardless so why not make the most out of them?

The entrances in Pride were cool, but that is not what I miss about Pride, it was the fights. It is funny because during the mma fights the other night I was actually thinking "why does it take so long to walk to the cage, I would just walk the fuck out there; these guys are taking for ever". So yeah that pretty much sums it up for me, get out there and fight.


that's the truth - I always find myself wishing the walkouts were much faster, it already takes so long with the elaborate intros and what not once they reach the cage and get the pat down/vaseline/etc and all that. it's too bad they aren't quicker, if anything.

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Criticize a fighter for all kinds of shit they does in the cage, outside of the cage and in their personal life. Now your criticizing them for their walk out length? Running out there? You know what happens when you get fired up before a fight?
Get out there and fight? This is their time, they just trained 16 weeks for that moment. Cut weight, re-hydrated, and your telling them to get out there and fight?
Them feeling comfortable and confident is much more important then your extra 15 seconds you spend watching a walk out while your eating cheetos and drinking ber.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby ballsmcgee » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:20 pm

If the UFC had better production value like Pride, the walkouts and shit leading up to the fights wouldn't be so painful. No wonder it seems like an eternity between fights when goldberg has to mention every fucking sponsor. It's like every piece of the building has an advetisement that needs to be acknowledged.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby AXEMELL » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:26 pm

It's cool to me, they don't need to change anything. I like that kind of walkout. I must say though that I really enjoy the "It's Showtime" entrances with all those beautiful women dancing around. But I'm a horney bastard. Both ways work for me.
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby irishmike357 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:30 pm

Fearless6691 wrote:Linkers just don't stop do they?
Criticize a fighter for all kinds of shit they does in the cage, outside of the cage and in their personal life. Now your criticizing them for their walk out length? Running out there? You know what happens when you get fired up before a fight?
Get out there and fight? This is their time, they just trained 16 weeks for that moment. Cut weight, re-hydrated, and your telling them to get out there and fight?
Them feeling comfortable and confident is much more important then your extra 15 seconds you spend watching a walk out while your eating cheetos and drinking ber.

It is the UFCs fault. They don't show any walk outs the whole night, then the main event all of a sudden I have to wait for the fight, with the fear of another commercial break looming over me :x

(I don't literally mean run out there and fight lmao).
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby 50calReaper » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:59 pm

Yeah I agree, I mean I don't mind the UFC walkouts because I'm usually very invested in the fights and I'm a pretty analytical person, so I'm looking at how the fighter is acting (gauging if they are nervous or not) and I've been blessed with having brothers that are actually knowledgeable and we talk about the upcoming fight in depth. So I don't view the walkouts as a problem, but if they had awesome Pride-like entrances, it would be quite entertaining. They wouldn't have to go over the top either, but sometimes I do feel that the UFC entrances are a little bland as is. A ramp and big screen would be an interesting addition.

But the way they do it now, they can get maximum attendance, and save a lot of money that they would be losing otherwise on extravagant entrances. And we all know how much Dana likes money...
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Re: UFC's Production Value

Postby username78 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:02 pm

im sure that they could do that, but it transfer to the consumer. You will pay more for tickets and everything else at the event.
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