vampxx24 wrote: mrbwo wrote: sdbolt86 wrote:
jjonesmmajkd wrote:I think he would do so much better if he got in the LW division and trained with that guy who put him hrough that rigerous NFL training, or hell just find a new camp all together...anyone can do a better job than Jason Perillo
All that new age training is a fad, he just needs to train, FIGHTING.... Haha. In any sport I ever played, the only thing that ever got me in shape was training in that sport. I think sparring hundreds of rounds> hitting a tire, or doing foot speed drills.
I dont think BJ's conditioning is the problem, it's his skillset, reaction time, gameplanning that he brings to the fight. I think people have to accept as BJ gets older the game is passing by and evolving over him more and more. He's only 32 but he's been fighting the best for almost as long as Fedor. And Like Fedor he's an old 32 it seems. The same thing might be happening to Shogun.
i think gsp is the one who said" you have to evolve with the sport"...... it cant pass you by if your evolving with it... thats why bj,fedor,shogun,brock(well use to be brock) should of/should change camps. if you look at the 4, there the best in camp by a LANDSLIDE..... Look at the other top guys in the sport andwho they train with...why are they ontop, because they have guys JUST beneath them or equal in other divsions that push them to the limits. you cant evolve if your the best guy in camp, you get complaciant(sp?)....as the old phrase goes, steel sharpens steel. this is most talked about with shogun by his best friends. the shogun weve seen has been an unmotivated shell of himself. this dates back to after the machida win.
after shogun beat machida he was suppose to fight rashad, dana stepped in and refused to let shogun do what he did with coleman and basically schedule the fight rigght after rehab, the fight was pushed back to spring. events happened , such as shogun having a baby, shoguns trainer leaving him for kings mma(he pleaded shogun to follow), and with rashad being hurt.....alot ofpeople wanna talk about shogun vs jones, but shogun has said it himself....he was not hurt, he simply went into the fight half ass...if you look at the shogun who fought in brazil that was not the shogun who fought jones or hendo....the difference was shogun switched camps for forrest. for both jones and hendo shogun trained in brazil at his gym which hes drawn heavy fire by his closest friends for doing. Wand ,cordiero ,dida have all said shogun is his worst enemy currently as when hes training at his gym he has no one to push him, hes the boss and says when to stop.... he also has no one close to his level to train and spar with. when u look at who trains at kings...u have , werdum,wand,anderson,mayhem,munoz and a host of others.... bj and fedor have the same problem..... no doubt if both went to diff camps they could step there career back its why guys are constently changing camps. mousasi is a good example.. good ground game, killer striking...his weakness was his wrestling, so what did he do... he moved to trainn in hte us under jacksons mma, who has some pretty damn solid wrestlers... aside from aka
as others are saying, if bjs serious about a return, he needs to goto lw........ bj is your avg walkng lw most ww are near 200 which will obv give him a hard time
A lot of truth to this.
I've been harping for years that Fedor should have long kicked M-1 to the curb, headed to the U.S., started a gym with his brother, and invited a bunch of top MMA fighters and trainers. They would come. He's a legend.
Same with Gonzaga. He has all the tools, the talent, and the heavy hands to be a HW champ. But he fights out of his own gym, where he is by far the most high profile fighter. No one is close, and no one can push him, or make him better. And his gym is a fucking BJJ school, so he's not even training with other MMA fighters. It's like Gonzaga has not improved one iota since his LHK win over CroCop years ago.
Shogun always fights better when he leaves Curatiba, gets away from his gym and home setting, where he gets too comfortable. That becomes increasingly harder when you start a family. I understand that. But it just means you give up a little as a fighter.
As for BJ, he's just lazy and stupid and unnecessarily arrogant (always has). He should have moved from Hawaii long ago to train, but he's too comfortable there, with his rich family and comfortable lifestyle. He has a bit of that polynesian warrior spirit-- it comes out from time to time in the cage-- but he's mainly just a spoiled frat boy with world class BJJ. These days, that's just not enough to own a weight division in MMA.
BJ Penn should leave Hawaii and cut his fat ass down to LW, where he'll be competitive. He'd struggle to be top 10 in WW these days...