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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby jef_jon_son » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:38 pm

solidkevin wrote:Why the fuck is this still going on??
Condit won, Diaz lost, thats it. Did Condit do the war that he said? No. But does that mean that automatically all the other fights he had that were wars lose credibility? Diaz has shown various times that if you get into a brawl with him, the chances are on his side, Condit realized this and did not want to do that, was he "scared" to get into a brawl? Who knows maybe, but that just shows a great fighter imo, he used a gameplan, stuck to it and came out the victor, more then daley, zarmoskis and others can say.



because people like you just cant seem to let it go. :P

that fight proved nothing.

count me as a hater of game plans to win decisions.
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Postby bamdalillama1 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:24 pm

jef_jon_son wrote:
solidkevin wrote:Why the fuck is this still going on??
Condit won, Diaz lost, thats it. Did Condit do the war that he said? No. But does that mean that automatically all the other fights he had that were wars lose credibility? Diaz has shown various times that if you get into a brawl with him, the chances are on his side, Condit realized this and did not want to do that, was he "scared" to get into a brawl? Who knows maybe, but that just shows a great fighter imo, he used a gameplan, stuck to it and came out the victor, more then daley, zarmoskis and others can say.



because people like you just cant seem to let it go. :P

that fight proved nothing.

count me as a hater of game plans to win decisions.


Nick diaz is that good.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby solidkevin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:31 am

jef_jon_son wrote:
solidkevin wrote:Why the fuck is this still going on??
Condit won, Diaz lost, thats it. Did Condit do the war that he said? No. But does that mean that automatically all the other fights he had that were wars lose credibility? Diaz has shown various times that if you get into a brawl with him, the chances are on his side, Condit realized this and did not want to do that, was he "scared" to get into a brawl? Who knows maybe, but that just shows a great fighter imo, he used a gameplan, stuck to it and came out the victor, more then daley, zarmoskis and others can say.



because people like you just cant seem to let it go. :P

that fight proved nothing.

count me as a hater of game plans to win decisions.

Eh this is a sport not a street brawl, I dont think condit did anything wrong or boring, he kept landing stuff while not getting caught in a corner so Diaz can blast him, what GSP and askren do is boring imo, but even then its part of the sport and a great fighter gets better and overcomes that, just cause they are great and taking you down and controlling you doesn't mean they cant be beat, adjust to it and make them pay rather then complaining like Diaz did, if he had fought GSP and he LnP him, he would have complained and retired as well, instead of adjusting and figuring them out and beating them.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby solidkevin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:33 am

Take Douglas Lima, he couldnt stop the takedown and got layed N Prayed for 5 rounds sratight, he couldnt even land one punch, was he frustrated and pissed off later that he lost that way and felt like he wasn't in a fight? Probably, but instead of crying about he will go and try to become a better fighter so that next time he will be ready for that.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby jef_jon_son » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:36 pm

so its ok to gameplan to win a decision if its guys you like, or just against diaz.

notice no hate for C.C. in my posts.
and when you refrence diaz's complaining, you are refering to what he said in the cage post fight right? after he gave respect to condit, and you're not implying that diaz doesn't try to get better just complains - are you?

maybe its not a street fight, but its still supposed to be a fight, or should we start refering to these as atheletic contests? ultimate athletic contests.

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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby solidkevin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:27 pm

jef_jon_son wrote:so its ok to gameplan to win a decision if its guys you like, or just against diaz.

notice no hate for C.C. in my posts.
and when you refrence diaz's complaining, you are refering to what he said in the cage post fight right? after he gave respect to condit, and you're not implying that diaz doesn't try to get better just complains - are you?

maybe its not a street fight, but its still supposed to be a fight, or should we start refering to these as atheletic contests? ultimate athletic contests.

:mrgreen:

No, if my favorite fighter (shogun) were to lets say get LnP, then yea I would be pissed but at the same time, thats the way things are, its within the rules and he lost, get better at BJJ, get better TDD, you only get layed n prayed because you allow it to happen because of your weaknesses. And you seem to imply that I dislike Diaz, in fact I love his style his overall toughness, I may not like the way he acts personality wise a lot of times but that's irrelevant when fighting.

And as far as Diaz complaining, he complains a LOT about a lot of things, he is always complaining about something and it just gets tiring, I wasn't implying that he dosnt train as youd have to be real naive to think Diaz doesn't train hard, my point was mainly that if you lost the fight then so what, get better and move on rather then complaining so much and its not like completely dominated the fight, it was close.

And while yes its not a street fight but still a fight, I agree except when a guy comes to basically lay on top of another guy, THAT is not fighting but if a wrestler takes a guy down, keeps on Gnp, going for subs, controlling the guy, then while yea it wasnt the most exciting or a war but he won, if that was a street fight and a wrestler gets you down imagine what they could do.

Either way on the topic of this fight, Im not sure what people think CC should have done, get into a striking war with Diaz? As I said before that is very risky as straight up KO'ng Diaz is extremely hard, getting into a brawl is not a good idea with Diaz, go to the ground with him? NOT a good idea, his best bet was to not let Diaz turn it into a brawl, move around a lot especially out of corners and just kept landing shots on him. And plus why is all the blame put on CC? If Diaz was smarter he would have quit chasing him and cut him off at a corner, grab him, go for takedowns, bully him against the cage etc, he could have tried much more, instead he decided to just chase him and get mad.

Overall I liked it.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby TRL » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:36 pm

solidkevin wrote:
jef_jon_son wrote:
solidkevin wrote:Why the fuck is this still going on??
Condit won, Diaz lost, thats it. Did Condit do the war that he said? No. But does that mean that automatically all the other fights he had that were wars lose credibility? Diaz has shown various times that if you get into a brawl with him, the chances are on his side, Condit realized this and did not want to do that, was he "scared" to get into a brawl? Who knows maybe, but that just shows a great fighter imo, he used a gameplan, stuck to it and came out the victor, more then daley, zarmoskis and others can say.



because people like you just cant seem to let it go. :P

that fight proved nothing.

count me as a hater of game plans to win decisions.

Eh this is a sport not a street brawl, I dont think condit did anything wrong or boring, he kept landing stuff while not getting caught in a corner so Diaz can blast him, what GSP and askren do is boring imo, but even then its part of the sport and a great fighter gets better and overcomes that, just cause they are great and taking you down and controlling you doesn't mean they cant be beat, adjust to it and make them pay rather then complaining like Diaz did, if he had fought GSP and he LnP him, he would have complained and retired as well, instead of adjusting and figuring them out and beating them.


c'mon now. we're seriously comparing gsp and askren as doing the same thing? this is a crackhead statement. gsp and askren are not even close by any means. if you think gsp doesn't gnp people and just lays on them then i suggest you go and watch his fights again and look at his http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fighters/details/439 numbers. he out punches every single one of his opponents on the feet and on the ground in significant strikes landed. other than serra 1.
askren barely even throws a punch at all. seriously. i can't believe that people actually believe that gsp just lays on people. it's like you hear it so much from ignorant people that you just start to believe it.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby solidkevin » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:48 pm

TRL wrote:
solidkevin wrote:
jef_jon_son wrote:
solidkevin wrote:Why the fuck is this still going on??
Condit won, Diaz lost, thats it. Did Condit do the war that he said? No. But does that mean that automatically all the other fights he had that were wars lose credibility? Diaz has shown various times that if you get into a brawl with him, the chances are on his side, Condit realized this and did not want to do that, was he "scared" to get into a brawl? Who knows maybe, but that just shows a great fighter imo, he used a gameplan, stuck to it and came out the victor, more then daley, zarmoskis and others can say.



because people like you just cant seem to let it go. :P

that fight proved nothing.

count me as a hater of game plans to win decisions.

Eh this is a sport not a street brawl, I dont think condit did anything wrong or boring, he kept landing stuff while not getting caught in a corner so Diaz can blast him, what GSP and askren do is boring imo, but even then its part of the sport and a great fighter gets better and overcomes that, just cause they are great and taking you down and controlling you doesn't mean they cant be beat, adjust to it and make them pay rather then complaining like Diaz did, if he had fought GSP and he LnP him, he would have complained and retired as well, instead of adjusting and figuring them out and beating them.


c'mon now. we're seriously comparing gsp and askren as doing the same thing? this is a crackhead statement. gsp and askren are not even close by any means. if you think gsp doesn't gnp people and just lays on them then i suggest you go and watch his fights again and look at his http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fighters/details/439 numbers. he out punches every single one of his opponents on the feet and on the ground in significant strikes landed. other than serra 1.
askren barely even throws a punch at all. seriously. i can't believe that people actually believe that gsp just lays on people. it's like you hear it so much from ignorant people that you just start to believe it.

Yea maybe I shouldn't have compared GSP with askren, I dont find GSP's fights really exciting but I respect what he does so much! Askren is just damn boring and he dosnet even look that impressive imo.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby TRL » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:51 pm

solidkevin wrote:Yea maybe I shouldn't have compared GSP with askren, I dont find GSP's fights really exciting but I respect what he does so much! Askren is just damn boring and he dosnet even look that impressive imo.


now those are words i can get behind.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby doocieonu » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:31 pm

Pay these guys less, make them fight for rent money, food money, and loser goes homless with starving kids. then we will see some serious wars, if u disagree ur insane. Gameplans will be the UFC's biggest mistake
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby RustyCooter » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:34 pm

doocieonu wrote:Pay these guys less, make them fight for rent money, food money, and loser goes homless with starving kids. then we will see some serious wars, if u disagree ur insane. Gameplans will be the UFC's biggest mistake

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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby doocieonu » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:12 pm

^ Get rid of gameplans, get rid of money, if u find that today's UFC is more entertaining then MMA lets say 10yrs ago. Ur crazy. Get rid of fighting for money, fame, and legacy like these fighters claim to be fighting for. I say let them fight for blood, winner gets this months rent paid and loser goes hungry. could u imagine the wars and violence. I say bring back the gladiators not these wanna be athletes
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby burtonboarder » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:38 am

If you could just forward us the memo when the Natural Born Killer shows up that'd be great, Carlos. Thanks.
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby doocieonu » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:55 pm

So Nick, would you agree your marijuana smoking has got in the way of your fight career?
"Actually, on the contrary, my fight career has gotten in the way of my marijuana smoking."
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Re: Carlos Condit: “Not every single fight is gonna be a war

Postby MrBojan9les » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:44 pm

doocieonu wrote:^ Get rid of gameplans, get rid of money, if u find that today's UFC is more entertaining then MMA lets say 10yrs ago. Ur crazy. Get rid of fighting for money, fame, and legacy like these fighters claim to be fighting for. I say let them fight for blood, winner gets this months rent paid and loser goes hungry. could u imagine the wars and violence. I say bring back the gladiators not these wanna be athletes


You do realize that Youtube is filled with shit like that...and there's even a thread here dedicated to street fights. If you like street fights (I do too), then watch them. I for one also appreciate the sport of mma...and street fights aren't going to go away so you don't have to worry about mma continuing to exist. What are you a communist or something?
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