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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby Fightforit » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:27 am

Fearless6691 wrote:
likes2fightguy wrote:Jones would tool Wandy, roids and all... :lol:

Prime Chucky vs JBJ would be a better scrap. Not to say The Chuckster is a better fighter than Wandy, but his style is a better match up.

I don't disagree, but how do you figure? Counter wresting and a little bit more range then Wandy?

Wandy had the fortune of fighting guys he could lure into a brawl. Very predictable for more modern fighters.
Love Wandy, but I was actually surprised he beat Bisping, who approaches fights so methodical and keeps distance.
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby BakMan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:17 am

username78 wrote:by Prime Wandy do you mean roided up??

That's exactly what I was thinking before I even clicked on the link
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby BakMan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:18 am

Fightforit wrote:
Fearless6691 wrote:
likes2fightguy wrote:Jones would tool Wandy, roids and all... :lol:

Prime Chucky vs JBJ would be a better scrap. Not to say The Chuckster is a better fighter than Wandy, but his style is a better match up.

I don't disagree, but how do you figure? Counter wresting and a little bit more range then Wandy?

Wandy had the fortune of fighting guys he could lure into a brawl. Very predictable for more modern fighters.
Love Wandy, but I was actually surprised he beat Bisping, who approaches fights so methodical and keeps distance.

Chuck would be incontinent before the third round
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby jekidoruy » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:39 pm

Prime Wandi would when this fight. Prime Wandi is like the juggernaut from marvel vs capcom
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby IKnowuWannaBeMe » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:06 am

BakMan wrote:
Fightforit wrote:
Fearless6691 wrote:
likes2fightguy wrote:Jones would tool Wandy, roids and all... :lol:

Prime Chucky vs JBJ would be a better scrap. Not to say The Chuckster is a better fighter than Wandy, but his style is a better match up.

I don't disagree, but how do you figure? Counter wresting and a little bit more range then Wandy?

Wandy had the fortune of fighting guys he could lure into a brawl. Very predictable for more modern fighters.
Love Wandy, but I was actually surprised he beat Bisping, who approaches fights so methodical and keeps distance.

Chuck would be incontinent before the third round


Wow do you even remember how good Chuck was in his prime? Granite chin, insane TDD, very good wrestling, massive KO power. A prime Chuck Liddell would have made Jones look bad.
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby Fightforit » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:08 am

^ Nope...
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby chutewandsgun » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:06 am

320IDAVE wrote:Funny how terrible Wandy looked after the fight and how well Hendo looked.

My heart says Wandy but my head says Jones i think.

Ya your point? Some guys get cut and their eyes face swell easier than others. Dan Henderson really has never cut all that easy while Wanderlei (like Nick Diaz and Fedor) has always seem to bleed very easy and has a lot of scar tissue around his eyes from Vale Tudo, street fights in Brazil as a teenager as well as full throttle trainings in Chute Boxe. Hendo landed an H bomb right on his eye which fucked him up... Wanderlei landed about ten nasty strikes including uppercuts from clinch which dropped Hendo, Foot stomps and ground nd pound. How about that rape choke? Prime Wanderlei Silva could have hung with anyone at 205 or 185 if he changed up his diet. O shit forgot to mention it is funny how everyone forgets to mention how Dan Hendo got outwrestled by a Brazilian brawler.. O wait maybe his game was a little more rounded than just a brawler but he loved to strike and put on a show.
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby chutewandsgun » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:31 am

Imagine if Greg Jackson was Prime Wanderlei's coach. He would have used more takedowns to set up ground and pound, submissions, tried to throw more leg kicks and thrown straight punches which he looked good at when he fought Bisping. He would have been able to beat all the dudes he fought... O ya he was still undefeated for like 5 years at 205 and his first loss was to Mark Hunt a 290 pound K1 champ. He got robbed in that fight also and Randy Couture will explain why. So basically he fought by putting ona show and still beat everyone in his weight. He had a great chin and would take a shot to get one. With his power tho he could hurt people really bad, his speed throwing strikes as well as moving around the ring allowed him to get to people when he attacked. The icing on the cake is his cardio was unreal. One of the first things to go as a fighter gets old is speed then cardio. Chucky and Fedor both also had that ability to unload to 10 to 15 punches full power when guys where hurt and they lost it when they got old along with their speed. I'm getting off track tho
-Basically Wanderlei had the cardio to attack Jones nonstop, his chin and recovery would keep him awake(Jones hasn't shown crazy ko power anyway), he was quicker than Jones moving on his feet as well as in his hands so he could ge to Jones like Rashad. The difference between Rashad tho is he didnt have the cardio to keep it up, he also gave Jones too much respect which Wanderlei would not do. He would go forward and either land or get landed on, and if he hurt jones he would unload with the best killer instinct maybe of all time. Jones would have to take him down and grind out a decision. Most likely he would use he reach to find the timing and take Wanderlei down, from there he would hold him there and try and pull a Ricardo Arona like decision.
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby chutewandsgun » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:35 am

Lamer wrote:If you think about it, Wand in his prime presents the perfect style to defeat Jones. He had a great chin, amazing recovery, he put serious pressure on you, threw with blinding speed, hit like a god damn truck, had cardio for days, and was very solid on the ground. That's exactly what you'd ask for if you want to beat Jones. Someone who will close distance and throw power with serious speed. Honestly, yeah. I think prime Wand is the perfect fighter to beat Jones. Sadly he's far past that point.

Just read this after i posted and u have hit the nail on the head. Wish i saw it before so i could have +1 it
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby chutewandsgun » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:41 am

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slevin wrote:I saw Pride 12 where Wandy beat Hendo and stuffed his takedowns and was able to get Hendo down.... And basically smashed him on the feet. SO my question is who do u think would win between a PRIME Wandy or Jon Jones?


Yeah but Wandy didn't do so well in the rematch,you got to give it to Jones. I think he is just to big and strong for him not to mention the wing span.

Well the rematch was 6 months after Cro Cop gave him brain damage and destroyed his nasal cavity thus destroying him breathing from his nose. He finally fixed it years down the road after he fought Rich Franklin. So there is Prime Wand 02-when he fought Mark Hunt, then there is top 2 or 3 205 pounder in the world Wand that lost a small step, 05- second time he fought Cro Cop, then there is washed up Wand lossing to guys that never would have gotten out of first round
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby LiamHillen » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:06 pm

jekidoruy wrote:Prime Wandi would when this fight. Prime Wandi is like the juggernaut from marvel vs capcom

:lol: :lol: :lol: True true
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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby MurderfaceMMA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:55 am

LiamHillen wrote:
jekidoruy wrote:Prime Wandi would when this fight. Prime Wandi is like the juggernaut from marvel vs capcom

:lol: :lol: :lol: True true


Id say he was more like Gleek from the Wonder Twins.


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Re: Prime Wandy vs Jon Jones

Postby IKnowuWannaBeMe » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:46 pm

MurderfaceMMA wrote:
LiamHillen wrote:
jekidoruy wrote:Prime Wandi would when this fight. Prime Wandi is like the juggernaut from marvel vs capcom

:lol: :lol: :lol: True true


Id say he was more like Gleek from the Wonder Twins.


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