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Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

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Who should get Bendo next

Edgar rematch
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16%
Pettis
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38%
Diaz/Miller winner
15
16%
Wait for Pettis/Diaz/Miller
7
8%
Dana get your head out of your ass and get Gil over here now
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22%
Other
1
1%
 
Total votes : 93

Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby DARC87 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:33 am

PakuBoy808 wrote:I think Pettis should get the next shot. He was supposed to get it anyway until losing to that weird guy.
Sorry but I cant stand Clay Guida the drunken chimp. If it wasn't for the Edgar Maynard soap opera he would have got it and probably won the title then. Frankie needs to get off this rematch crap. I totally agree with rematches when their is a controversial decision. But there wasn't one, he got beat fair and square. And as far as Miller or Diaz. I think after Diaz beats Miller he should definitely get the winner of Pettis Henderson. Even if Miller pulls a win out of his butt i still don't think he deserves a shot yet. Gilbert is very happy where he is right now. Hes the champ and there really isn't anyone in strikeforce to threaten his reign. He knows that if he moved to the u.f.c. he wouldn't hold that title ever. Eventually we are going to get to watch Pettis and Diaz for the title. I for one cant wait.


There's just so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to start. First of all Guida is awesome and not "that weird guy". Dude is a grinder and probably the most exciting lightweight fighter in the sport today. Puts his heart on the line every single time he fights and I dig it.

As far as Diaz and Miller goes, I agree Miller definitely has some climbing to do especially because Henderson wrecked his ass pretty bad last summer. If Diaz wins he should get that number three slot absolutely. Miller wins then he's got more work to put in that's for damn sure.

I'll also disagree with you that Gil is happy in SF. He's expressed his desire to make his debut in the UFC since the purchase and he's got no challengers. For a competitive world champ like Melendez that's not a very good sign. Holding onto a title because you've earned it is one thing. Holding onto it because there's literally nobody to fight is quite another. It's my opinion that Zuffa is literally pissing away one of the world's most talented fighters and not using him in their own promotion to keep a dead company on life support. It's not fair to Gil, the fans, Strikeforce or the UFC
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Postby DreadLobster » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:19 am

I went Pettis. Not really interested in seeing anyone else.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby prophet1 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:58 pm

DARC87 wrote:
PakuBoy808 wrote:I think Pettis should get the next shot. He was supposed to get it anyway until losing to that weird guy.
Sorry but I cant stand Clay Guida the drunken chimp. If it wasn't for the Edgar Maynard soap opera he would have got it and probably won the title then. Frankie needs to get off this rematch crap. I totally agree with rematches when their is a controversial decision. But there wasn't one, he got beat fair and square. And as far as Miller or Diaz. I think after Diaz beats Miller he should definitely get the winner of Pettis Henderson. Even if Miller pulls a win out of his butt i still don't think he deserves a shot yet. Gilbert is very happy where he is right now. Hes the champ and there really isn't anyone in strikeforce to threaten his reign. He knows that if he moved to the u.f.c. he wouldn't hold that title ever. Eventually we are going to get to watch Pettis and Diaz for the title. I for one cant wait.


There's just so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to start. First of all Guida is awesome and not "that weird guy". Dude is a grinder and probably the most exciting lightweight fighter in the sport today. Puts his heart on the line every single time he fights and I dig it.

As far as Diaz and Miller goes, I agree Miller definitely has some climbing to do especially because Henderson wrecked his ass pretty bad last summer. If Diaz wins he should get that number three slot absolutely. Miller wins then he's got more work to put in that's for damn sure.

I'll also disagree with you that Gil is happy in SF. He's expressed his desire to make his debut in the UFC since the purchase and he's got no challengers. For a competitive world champ like Melendez that's not a very good sign. Holding onto a title because you've earned it is one thing. Holding onto it because there's literally nobody to fight is quite another. It's my opinion that Zuffa is literally pissing away one of the world's most talented fighters and not using him in their own promotion to keep a dead company on life support. It's not fair to Gil, the fans, Strikeforce or the UFC


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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby Iceman54 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:39 pm

gunswordfist wrote:
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gunswordfist wrote:Clearly Pettis. Miller/Diaz is 3 months from now and if Miller wins, like Pettis, he'd be on a 2 fight win streak but that would be 3 months from now + months for camp + medical suspension, if there is one. While Pettis and Bendo will be ready to fight by then and the winner of Miller/Diaz will likely line up with the time the winner of Pettis/Bendo is ready to fight again. This is an easy question.

No brainer. Pettis Pettis Pettis. This topic is getting talked to death already.

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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby DARC87 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:37 pm

prophet1 wrote:
DARC87 wrote:
PakuBoy808 wrote:I think Pettis should get the next shot. He was supposed to get it anyway until losing to that weird guy.
Sorry but I cant stand Clay Guida the drunken chimp. If it wasn't for the Edgar Maynard soap opera he would have got it and probably won the title then. Frankie needs to get off this rematch crap. I totally agree with rematches when their is a controversial decision. But there wasn't one, he got beat fair and square. And as far as Miller or Diaz. I think after Diaz beats Miller he should definitely get the winner of Pettis Henderson. Even if Miller pulls a win out of his butt i still don't think he deserves a shot yet. Gilbert is very happy where he is right now. Hes the champ and there really isn't anyone in strikeforce to threaten his reign. He knows that if he moved to the u.f.c. he wouldn't hold that title ever. Eventually we are going to get to watch Pettis and Diaz for the title. I for one cant wait.


There's just so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to start. First of all Guida is awesome and not "that weird guy". Dude is a grinder and probably the most exciting lightweight fighter in the sport today. Puts his heart on the line every single time he fights and I dig it.

As far as Diaz and Miller goes, I agree Miller definitely has some climbing to do especially because Henderson wrecked his ass pretty bad last summer. If Diaz wins he should get that number three slot absolutely. Miller wins then he's got more work to put in that's for damn sure.

I'll also disagree with you that Gil is happy in SF. He's expressed his desire to make his debut in the UFC since the purchase and he's got no challengers. For a competitive world champ like Melendez that's not a very good sign. Holding onto a title because you've earned it is one thing. Holding onto it because there's literally nobody to fight is quite another. It's my opinion that Zuffa is literally pissing away one of the world's most talented fighters and not using him in their own promotion to keep a dead company on life support. It's not fair to Gil, the fans, Strikeforce or the UFC


http://mmajunkie.com/news/25498/dana-wh ... c-asap.mma

is this is any indicator then we will get our wish...


Seeing as that article is dated Oct 2nd, 2011 I highly doubt it. That was 5 months ago dude and Gil is still stuck in SF. I don't see it happening any time soon. In fact Gil staying in Strikeforce is one of the only reasons why SF is still on Showtime and still in business. It's public knowledge that Showtime requested Melendez stays with the company or they didn't want to resign their deal (hence, Strikeforce being out of business).
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby KingJoe » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:45 pm

Iceman54 wrote:
gunswordfist wrote:
smkizer76 wrote:
gunswordfist wrote:Clearly Pettis. Miller/Diaz is 3 months from now and if Miller wins, like Pettis, he'd be on a 2 fight win streak but that would be 3 months from now + months for camp + medical suspension, if there is one. While Pettis and Bendo will be ready to fight by then and the winner of Miller/Diaz will likely line up with the time the winner of Pettis/Bendo is ready to fight again. This is an easy question.

No brainer. Pettis Pettis Pettis. This topic is getting talked to death already.

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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby mrbwo » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:29 pm

lol @ gil... Pettis ez. Pettis is a bad matchup for bendo. BJJ cancels, Pettis taekwondo >>> bendo's taekwondo... and bendo cant even take down pettis which would be the major difference.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby PakuBoy808 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:55 pm

DARC87 wrote:
PakuBoy808 wrote:I think Pettis should get the next shot. He was supposed to get it anyway until losing to that weird guy.
Sorry but I cant stand Clay Guida the drunken chimp. If it wasn't for the Edgar Maynard soap opera he would have got it and probably won the title then. Frankie needs to get off this rematch crap. I totally agree with rematches when their is a controversial decision. But there wasn't one, he got beat fair and square. And as far as Miller or Diaz. I think after Diaz beats Miller he should definitely get the winner of Pettis Henderson. Even if Miller pulls a win out of his butt i still don't think he deserves a shot yet. Gilbert is very happy where he is right now. Hes the champ and there really isn't anyone in strikeforce to threaten his reign. He knows that if he moved to the u.f.c. he wouldn't hold that title ever. Eventually we are going to get to watch Pettis and Diaz for the title. I for one cant wait.


There's just so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to start. First of all Guida is awesome and not "that weird guy". Dude is a grinder and probably the most exciting lightweight fighter in the sport today. Puts his heart on the line every single time he fights and I dig it.

As far as Diaz and Miller goes, I agree Miller definitely has some climbing to do especially because Henderson wrecked his ass pretty bad last summer. If Diaz wins he should get that number three slot absolutely. Miller wins then he's got more work to put in that's for damn sure.

I'll also disagree with you that Gil is happy in SF. He's expressed his desire to make his debut in the UFC since the purchase and he's got no challengers. For a competitive world champ like Melendez that's not a very good sign. Holding onto a title because you've earned it is one thing. Holding onto it because there's literally nobody to fight is quite another. It's my opinion that Zuffa is literally pissing away one of the world's most talented fighters and not using him in their own promotion to keep a dead company on life support. It's not fair to Gil, the fans, Strikeforce or the UFC


ok first of all i dont know how to do this quote reply thing but forgive me for my ignorence and my spelling . I apologize for my Guida statement you are right he is exactly what you said. i guess its just one of those things you know where you cant stand someone and usually dont know why you cant stand them, come on we all have one of those guys that we don't like for some reason that only we know. but as far as Gil goes i really cant see him going to the ufc and being as successful as he is in strikeforce. I really believe Pettis deserves the next shot and if Diaz can beat that scrappy Miller than he should get the next shot at either Benson or Pettis. Dont get me wrong I really like Miller he is an animal with a lot of heart. He just needs more wins under his belt. But as we all know its not always who deserves the shot in ufc but sometimes if not most of the time its what fight will sell more tickets. And now that Dana has said he thinks Edgar won that fight im assuming we are going to see yet another rematch. In that case lets have The winner of Diaz Miller fight Anthony Pettis and winner gets Henderson after he beats Edgar again. And again I really respect Frankies talent. I have to say I love that we can all share our opinions here without being called names. Thank you. Aloha. Sorry Clay. I do respect his heart and determination, i just don't like him and i don't know why.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby gunswordfist » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:05 pm

Iceman54 wrote:
gunswordfist wrote:
smkizer76 wrote:
gunswordfist wrote:Clearly Pettis. Miller/Diaz is 3 months from now and if Miller wins, like Pettis, he'd be on a 2 fight win streak but that would be 3 months from now + months for camp + medical suspension, if there is one. While Pettis and Bendo will be ready to fight by then and the winner of Miller/Diaz will likely line up with the time the winner of Pettis/Bendo is ready to fight again. This is an easy question.

No brainer. Pettis Pettis Pettis. This topic is getting talked to death already.

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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby FrankDux88 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:40 pm

DARC87 wrote:This is tough. Edgar had to fight two immediate rematches in the past so it's only right that he should get the shot. But then again Pettis was shoved aside once and he came out on the short end of that situation. If Dana was smart he'd bring Melendez over to get the shot against Henderson. Pettis and Edgar should fight for the number two spot and Diaz/ Miller will be at the three spot.



I think Frankie deserves an immediate rematch, but if this scenario were to happen..that would kick frikkin ass. Unfortunately, it's unlikely.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby prophet1 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:26 pm

DARC87 wrote:
prophet1 wrote:
DARC87 wrote:
PakuBoy808 wrote:I think Pettis should get the next shot. He was supposed to get it anyway until losing to that weird guy.
Sorry but I cant stand Clay Guida the drunken chimp. If it wasn't for the Edgar Maynard soap opera he would have got it and probably won the title then. Frankie needs to get off this rematch crap. I totally agree with rematches when their is a controversial decision. But there wasn't one, he got beat fair and square. And as far as Miller or Diaz. I think after Diaz beats Miller he should definitely get the winner of Pettis Henderson. Even if Miller pulls a win out of his butt i still don't think he deserves a shot yet. Gilbert is very happy where he is right now. Hes the champ and there really isn't anyone in strikeforce to threaten his reign. He knows that if he moved to the u.f.c. he wouldn't hold that title ever. Eventually we are going to get to watch Pettis and Diaz for the title. I for one cant wait.


There's just so many things wrong with this post I don't know where to start. First of all Guida is awesome and not "that weird guy". Dude is a grinder and probably the most exciting lightweight fighter in the sport today. Puts his heart on the line every single time he fights and I dig it.

As far as Diaz and Miller goes, I agree Miller definitely has some climbing to do especially because Henderson wrecked his ass pretty bad last summer. If Diaz wins he should get that number three slot absolutely. Miller wins then he's got more work to put in that's for damn sure.

I'll also disagree with you that Gil is happy in SF. He's expressed his desire to make his debut in the UFC since the purchase and he's got no challengers. For a competitive world champ like Melendez that's not a very good sign. Holding onto a title because you've earned it is one thing. Holding onto it because there's literally nobody to fight is quite another. It's my opinion that Zuffa is literally pissing away one of the world's most talented fighters and not using him in their own promotion to keep a dead company on life support. It's not fair to Gil, the fans, Strikeforce or the UFC


http://mmajunkie.com/news/25498/dana-wh ... c-asap.mma

if this is any indicator then we will get our wish...


Seeing as that article is dated Oct 2nd, 2011 I highly doubt it. That was 5 months ago dude and Gil is still stuck in SF. I don't see it happening any time soon. In fact Gil staying in Strikeforce is one of the only reasons why SF is still on Showtime and still in business. It's public knowledge that Showtime requested Melendez stays with the company or they didn't want to resign their deal (hence, Strikeforce being out of business).


i also saw this one from later in the year...

Cesar Gracie, recently sat down with Brazilian website, Tatame.com, to talk about his star pupil and had some pretty big claims about his fighter.

“Absolutely it’ll be his last fight [in Strikeforce]," said Gracie. “I believe Melendez is the best of the world in this division."

gracie seemed to think he will be heading over. his last fight in sf was sposed to be against masvidal in december. that said, i did a little digging and found your link. it appears you are correct and gilbert will be stranded for the near future. that's too bad. the dude has no one to fight over there unless they import ufc lw's to challenge. i think that you just ended the bring gilbert over discussion though so nice work dude.

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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby food984 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:51 pm

they should have frankie fight pettis and bendo fight miller diaz winner
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby prophet1 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:01 am

food984 wrote:they should have frankie fight pettis and bendo fight miller diaz winner


wouldn't that put bendo's first title defense in september or so depending on med suspensions from diaz/miller...? seems like a long time to wait. i think frankie or pettis is going to get it based on timing. have that fight in june then winner fights diaz/miller in september or so.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby DanyeWest » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:25 pm

KingJoe wrote:
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doyousukadaweena wrote:
DanyeWest wrote:pettis should have to wait and fight i think. I was thoroughly impressed with his last performance but we cant forget that while they were both(he and bendo) given a very similar road similar road to where they are right now(bocek,miller,guida-Benderson and Guida, stephens, Lauzon-Pettis) he did falter where benderson did not. and i know i'll get shit for this but i believe Showtime, while he did put a good fight on over all, won the fight with bendo on the merit of the "Showtime" kick. I had him losing that fight 3-2 even after the epic wall running.


The Bendo/Pettis fight was close. I would've called a draw if not for that late kick. More reason to make that rematch instead of the one where Bendo clearly won or make two healthy fighters wait on the sidelines. Diaz/Miller can get the next shot. I don't know what they're going to do with Maynard though.


Maynard vs cowboy anyone?

yeah I'd pay to watch that


I'd definitely call that a position defining fight. Although they are both coming off of losses it doesnt change the fact that maynard put of the year of his career with the edgar fights and was seconds away a number of times from being the new champ and Cowboys loss to Diaz was an admitted unnecessary fight plan error on his part.

not to take anything from diaz, who i think is on his way to a title shot himself for sure, but i think 8 times out of ten cowboy takes that fight. he just went full retard and tried to brawl a diaz. If maynard wins a hypothetical fight against cowboy then i say let him fight the loser of miller diaz for the shot and pettis edgar for the next one after that.

If cowboy wins let him fight barboza,assuming he wins, then the loser of the pettis edgar fight for the shot after that.

I'm sure gil fits in there somewhere but i wont involve him in something he isnt a part of yet as awesome as that would be.
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Re: Who deserves next shot at LW title? (Poll)

Postby duallie » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:44 pm

well, it's definitely "not" frankie now.
and seeing as how dana has said that frankie would walk straight to a titleshot if he fought at fw, it's probably an open book as to who fights benson next.
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