Official: Jonathan Brookins vs. Erik Koch

[Doodlebop37]

Finally! A fight that didn't go to the guy who stalls for 15 minutes.

[rascalraidex]

I used to like New Orleans when I lived on the Gulf Coast, but after those judges scored against a WnS'r, I FUCKING LOVE NEW ORLEANS!

[ifitscool]

I just wanted to point out something.
At the end of the fight Joe Rogan didn't seem overly thrilled that Koch won... and then said "I guess the judges took the striking over the octagon control and aggression".
Joe's full of shit. He didn't notice that the ENTIRE fight Eric was defending and making attempts to get out of the situation... striking, always thinking and acting on his next move! Brookins DID have the Control and DID have him pressed against the cage... and nothing else, hardly any striking OR Agression to improve or change approach.
Its people like Brookins that are making MMA weak because this is straight wrestling with a finishing move(and a couple of Haymaker's) and it has to change. Eric Koch never gets any press and he's a hard working kid... oh yeah he's from the WEC where they weren't REAL Fighters... Cough.

And for the record, if you haven't noticed there are a lot of fighters that are comfortable on the ground and its part of the sport so... I think TOP Position shouldn't have anything to do with points or appearance of control. In MMA you have control from all angles... but UFC and most of the rest believe the guy on top is winning. Makes No Sense.

I'm tired of watching guys work there asses off on the ground, not really trying to get up... because their comfortable and then the guy on top... BECAUSE HE'S ON TOP wins. Also tired of all the wrestling lovers and boxing lovers(if their not boxing their losing bullsh*t) that said he should have gotten up... that's bullsh*t, This Is MMA... ALL TYPES OF MARTIAL ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigSexy]

Brookins is P4P

[MMAPunkBillCarson]

I just wanted to point out something.
At the end of the fight Joe Rogan didn't seem overly thrilled that Koch won... and then said "I guess the judges took the striking over the octagon control and aggression".
Joe's full of shit. He didn't notice that the ENTIRE fight Eric was defending and making attempts to get out of the situation... striking, always thinking and acting on his next move! Brookins DID have the Control and DID have him pressed against the cage... and nothing else, hardly any striking OR Agression to improve or change approach.
Its people like Brookins that are making MMA weak because this is straight wrestling with a finishing move(and a couple of Haymaker's) and it has to change. Eric Koch never gets any press and he's a hard working kid... oh yeah he's from the WEC where they weren't REAL Fighters... Cough.

And for the record, if you haven't noticed there are a lot of fighters that are comfortable on the ground and its part of the sport so... I think TOP Position shouldn't have anything to do with points or appearance of control. In MMA you have control from all angles... but UFC and most of the rest believe the guy on top is winning. Makes No Sense.

I'm tired of watching guys work there asses off on the ground, not really trying to get up... because their comfortable and then the guy on top... BECAUSE HE'S ON TOP wins. Also tired of all the wrestling lovers and boxing lovers(if their not boxing their losing bullsh*t) that said he should have gotten up... that's bullsh*t, This Is MMA... ALL TYPES OF MARTIAL ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree. Judges don't see that guys like Condit who have a very aggressive style off their back should be getting points for aggression. Also, there are some guys who pull guard just so they can try and get a submission but they get overlooked because the other guy is ON TOP! WHOO! Big whoop! If the guy on top is covering and trying to defend a sub or getting elbowed to death he should be losing points not gaining them. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Anderson Silva actually finish a guy from his back with elbow strikes?

[MrBojan9les]

yeah, how dare he stick to a game plan that tries to bring the fight to his strength. for shame brookins, for shame

i hope ur being serious. cause if u think that sticking to a gameplan that isnt working 2/3 of the fight and STILL doing it is the way to go, then ur stupid

what was he supposed to do, strike with the far superior striker? btw i agree with the judges decision

if ur down two rounds, thats when u swing for the fences...

Brookins had no hope by swinging for the fences. It was clear that he wasn't putting him out on the feet no matter if he landed a lucky clean shot or not... It was not time to swing for the fences. His odds were best by trying to do what he was doing and win a bad decision, or else to keep doing what he was doing and then actually succeed in a TD and finish w/a sub....which he has done plenty in his career. He has had 0 success in the past swinging for the fences and does not have powerful stand up or one punch KO power....

[rascalraidex]

I just wanted to point out something.
At the end of the fight Joe Rogan didn't seem overly thrilled that Koch won... and then said "I guess the judges took the striking over the octagon control and aggression".
Joe's full of shit. He didn't notice that the ENTIRE fight Eric was defending and making attempts to get out of the situation... striking, always thinking and acting on his next move! Brookins DID have the Control and DID have him pressed against the cage... and nothing else, hardly any striking OR Agression to improve or change approach.
Its people like Brookins that are making MMA weak because this is straight wrestling with a finishing move(and a couple of Haymaker's) and it has to change. Eric Koch never gets any press and he's a hard working kid... oh yeah he's from the WEC where they weren't REAL Fighters... Cough.

And for the record, if you haven't noticed there are a lot of fighters that are comfortable on the ground and its part of the sport so... I think TOP Position shouldn't have anything to do with points or appearance of control. In MMA you have control from all angles... but UFC and most of the rest believe the guy on top is winning. Makes No Sense.

I'm tired of watching guys work there asses off on the ground, not really trying to get up... because their comfortable and then the guy on top... BECAUSE HE'S ON TOP wins. Also tired of all the wrestling lovers and boxing lovers(if their not boxing their losing bullsh*t) that said he should have gotten up... that's bullsh*t, This Is MMA... ALL TYPES OF MARTIAL ARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he said that kind of out of shock. Earlier in the fight he was talking about how Brookins was basically trying to grapplefuck him and that judges usually go for that. I don't think he meant the guy didn't outstrike him or defend TD's, but rather that the judges based the fight off the striking criteria rather than the octagon control and aggression criteria. With the aggression criteria, they usually see the guy on the outside of the fence as 'aggressive' when it is pretty much a stalemate. I assume that is the case, anyway.

[Jetli]

I see octagon control as which fighter has the fight where they want it. Brookins despretely wanted it on the ground, Koch kept it on the feet.

Koch>Brookind control.

[MrBojan9les]

I see octagon control as which fighter has the fight where they want it. Brookins despretely wanted it on the ground, Koch kept it on the feet.

Koch>Brookind control.

This.

If a fighter is pushing another guy against the fence it is almost always with the goal of getting it to the ground or at the least to avoid a stand up fight. It certainly isn't an attempt to do anything to finish the fight if they fail their TD and just hold them against it. So, if one fighter is trying to do something (TD), and the other is defending it...is the guy defending it winning? Brookins landed a few more strikes against the cage, but Koch was landing non stop when the fight left the cage. I think Rogan was a little surprised because of some past (incorrect) decisions, but it's nice to see that judging seems to be swinging a little further away from grapple fucking with no actual threat of real damage. I can see why Rogan was slightly surprised, but I didn't take it as Joe thinking it was an incorrect decision...he said it was subjective, which it is. But decisions like this are finally starting to swing the way they should.

[MMAlvarez]

i hope ur being serious. cause if u think that sticking to a gameplan that isnt working 2/3 of the fight and STILL doing it is the way to go, then ur stupid

what was he supposed to do, strike with the far superior striker? btw i agree with the judges decision

if ur down two rounds, thats when u swing for the fences...

Brookins had no hope by swinging for the fences. It was clear that he wasn't putting him out on the feet no matter if he landed a lucky clean shot or not... It was not time to swing for the fences. His odds were best by trying to do what he was doing and win a bad decision, or else to keep doing what he was doing and then actually succeed in a TD and finish w/a sub....which he has done plenty in his career. He has had 0 success in the past swinging for the fences and does not have powerful stand up or one punch KO power....

anyone can knock anyone out if u hav a legit connecting punch to the jaw, or at least rock em and win by tko... derp... unless ur bj penn or hendo

[julio7]

good hard win for Koch