OH SHIT!-Powerlifting Edition 2.0

[TheAssassin]

[discoowl]

^ dude no gif attacks in S & C this place is sacred

....or

the fountain of youth?

[KOdestruction]

that lift is impressive if you ask me. If you watch the video she, completes the lift, adjusts her belt and just walks away like nothing went wrong.10/10

[TheAssassin]

That's one tough bitch without a glass heart.

[Fearless6691]

Idk what was up with those last videos I posted.

Red.. I posted my first video as a joke.

Don't knock it unless you've tried it. If you've tried it, and it didn't work for you, it might be that it works perfectly for someone else.

Thanks for the first grader advice again, but I was talking about females who arch their backs like crazy. I cannot try it, because I simply am not that flexible.

You're right - I should take it down to the special ed kindergarten level.

Note the use of the phrase "In short" directly above your quote. In the English language, this is commonly used to indicate a summation of some previous points made. You still with me, Tiny Tim?

See allllll that writing just above the bit that you quoted? It also relates to bench form, including arches and leg positioning, and apparently at a level too high for your "conversational" use of the forum. The links there include quite a few pictures of top level benchers using extreme back arches which you might have found useful.

You diss extreme arches, which are commonly praised by top coaches and pressers, apparently with no experience or evidence to back up what you say. I can't physically match her arch either, but if the literal interpretation is as far as you are able to take my statement and you refuse to actually experiment, read, etc then that's not my problem. Your arrogance in the face of your own ignorance deserves no more than the one line you managed to actually read and misinterpret, although if you had just managed to look up a few inches, you would've found more.

The kind of arches I was talking about was a video I seen were the female must have been a contortionist because her feet were planted right below her shoulder area.

This is the best example I could find, I can't find the actually video I was thinking about. I don't recall dissing extreme arches. I never claim to be an expert either. So excuse my ignorance on things. I know that when you are benching you need to arch your back quite a bit, I never really looked up what certain names think about how much you should arch your back. After all, it is not that serious.

Idk what was up with those last videos I posted.

Red.. I posted my first video as a joke.

Don't knock it unless you've tried it. If you've tried it, and it didn't work for you, it might be that it works perfectly for someone else.

Thanks for the first grader advice again, but I was talking about females who arch their backs like crazy. I cannot try it, because I simply am not that flexible.

seriously you're just butt hurt cause you got pwned in that other thread - you should just take your licks cause a) red_donn isn't exposing you to be a prick - you're doing that all by yourself and b) you might actually learn something if your pose your questions right - red_donn is a true font of knowledge in every area imaginable but particularly S & C - he's like a savant. What ever you think about your self or whatever you study I guarantee red_donn knows more than you about pretty much everything.

Haha really? Yes, he does know a lot. The thing is, I'm a true beginner/novice to any kind of lifting. I can learn from a lot of different people. I learn something everyday.
Really?
I don't have much time to read (even ask red) so if someone knows more about me in something then, cool? It doesn't really hurt my feelings. Everyone has their own wealth of knowledge that they can share with others, mine is not S&C.
I didn't replay to his other "pwning" of me because it was pointless, he was just going to post another 5 paragraph response that was going to take him an hour to come up with. I figured I would save everyone some time and let it go.

[discoowl]

^ No dude you just got pwned and your above response, an attempt at distancing yourself from any emotional investment you may have in your posts, just highlights a glaring example of self-...

[Fearless6691]

^ No dude you just got pwned and your above response, an attempt at distancing yourself from any emotional investment you may have in your posts, just highlights a glaring example of self-...

You are a true intellectual

[red_donn]

The kind of arches I was talking about was a video I seen were the female must have been a contortionist because her feet were planted right below her shoulder area.

This is the best example I could find, I can't find the actually video I was thinking about. I don't recall dissing extreme arches.

You acknowledged that the legs form part of an arch just now. However, two sentences later you say that your comment that "too flexible for her own good" does not reflect on leg positioning and arching. This is a point that can be confusing.
Common jargon often uses the word "arch" to describe the arching of the lower back, but it often is also used to imply the use of the legs and hips to form the whole-body arch at the same time, sometimes in the same sentence.

I consider the leg positioning in most bench presses to form part of a whole body arch. I have never seen someone achieve a really significant lower back arch without specific manipulation of the feet, legs, and hips. Whether the feet are fully tucked under the body, or just generally arched/curled in front, this point holds. Particularly in the case of your video there and other "extreme arches" as I said, the leg positioning is absolutely crucial to, and often dictated by, the arching of the back.

[Fearless6691]

Alright, I got ya.
I see where I was confused. I guess if your but is still touching then do it up! I have gotten away from arching my back a lot because I got complacent in the gym for a while. I'm going to try some more extreme arches out next time I am there.

[red_donn]

Alright, I got ya.
I see where I was confused. I guess if your but is still touching then do it up! I have gotten away from arching my back a lot because I got complacent in the gym for a while. I'm going to try some more extreme arches out next time I am there.

Check out some videos of Eric Lilliebridge benching on youtube. His setup method was the inspiration for mine. Also, Dave Tate's "Top 10 bench tips" has some great information. The big stuff that I liked was to grip the bar hard and feel as if you are pushing your upper back down through the bench, rather than pressing the bar up and away from you.

Do remember, though, that in my first post on benching, I mentioned that extreme arches are not required for great benches. World records have been set by people with remarkably flat backs and little leg arching to boot - some of the pictures in the links I provided will show this. By and large, though, most people seem to bench best with some degree of whole-body arching. I suspect that those with little arches tend to have remarkably strong shoulders in particular, judging by the routines of Eder, Hepburn, and Arcidi.

[Fearless6691]

Alright, I got ya.
I see where I was confused. I guess if your but is still touching then do it up! I have gotten away from arching my back a lot because I got complacent in the gym for a while. I'm going to try some more extreme arches out next time I am there.

Check out some videos of Eric Lilliebridge benching on youtube. His setup method was the inspiration for mine. Also, Dave Tate's "Top 10 bench tips" has some great information. The big stuff that I liked was to grip the bar hard and feel as if you are pushing your upper back down through the bench, rather than pressing the bar up and away from you.

Do remember, though, that in my first post on benching, I mentioned that extreme arches are not required for great benches. World records have been set by people with remarkably flat backs and little leg arching to boot - some of the pictures in the links I provided will show this. By and large, though, most people seem to bench best with some degree of whole-body arching. I suspect that those with little arches tend to have remarkably strong shoulders in particular, judging by the routines of Eder, Hepburn, and Arcidi.

I'll check that out now.
Just watched your James Henderson video, that dude is a monster lol. I bet he's not too athletic though. He looks pretty flat from what I've seen.

[red_donn]

Alright, I got ya.
I see where I was confused. I guess if your but is still touching then do it up! I have gotten away from arching my back a lot because I got complacent in the gym for a while. I'm going to try some more extreme arches out next time I am there.

Check out some videos of Eric Lilliebridge benching on youtube. His setup method was the inspiration for mine. Also, Dave Tate's "Top 10 bench tips" has some great information. The big stuff that I liked was to grip the bar hard and feel as if you are pushing your upper back down through the bench, rather than pressing the bar up and away from you.

Do remember, though, that in my first post on benching, I mentioned that extreme arches are not required for great benches. World records have been set by people with remarkably flat backs and little leg arching to boot - some of the pictures in the links I provided will show this. By and large, though, most people seem to bench best with some degree of whole-body arching. I suspect that those with little arches tend to have remarkably strong shoulders in particular, judging by the routines of Eder, Hepburn, and Arcidi.

I'll check that out now.
Just watched your James Henderson video, that dude is a monster lol. I bet he's not too athletic though. He looks pretty flat from what I've seen.

Well spotted - I was actually thinking of naming him too, but I couldn't recall if I linked him in the thread.

Henderson is an utter freak, but I've no idea of what other stuff he can do. I wouldnt make too many assumptions based on him being a big old fella. Shane Hamman, the last decent-ranked male US Olympic lifter, didn't look very athletic when he was powerlifting, but he was always extremely explosive and deceptively athletic. For instance, he could go right from squatting 600 for reps to performing backflips on a whim. O.D. Wilson had extra bodyfat on him (over 20%) but everyone on the strongman circuit had a high opinion of his athleticism.

[Fearless6691]

Alright, I got ya.
I see where I was confused. I guess if your but is still touching then do it up! I have gotten away from arching my back a lot because I got complacent in the gym for a while. I'm going to try some more extreme arches out next time I am there.

Check out some videos of Eric Lilliebridge benching on youtube. His setup method was the inspiration for mine. Also, Dave Tate's "Top 10 bench tips" has some great information. The big stuff that I liked was to grip the bar hard and feel as if you are pushing your upper back down through the bench, rather than pressing the bar up and away from you.

Do remember, though, that in my first post on benching, I mentioned that extreme arches are not required for great benches. World records have been set by people with remarkably flat backs and little leg arching to boot - some of the pictures in the links I provided will show this. By and large, though, most people seem to bench best with some degree of whole-body arching. I suspect that those with little arches tend to have remarkably strong shoulders in particular, judging by the routines of Eder, Hepburn, and Arcidi.

I'll check that out now.
Just watched your James Henderson video, that dude is a monster lol. I bet he's not too athletic though. He looks pretty flat from what I've seen.

Well spotted - I was actually thinking of naming him too, but I couldn't recall if I linked him in the thread.

Henderson is an utter freak, but I've no idea of what other stuff he can do. I wouldnt make too many assumptions based on him being a big old fella. Shane Hamman, the last decent-ranked male US Olympic lifter, didn't look very athletic when he was powerlifting, but he was always extremely explosive and deceptively athletic. For instance, he could go right from squatting 600 for reps to performing backflips on a whim. O.D. Wilson had extra bodyfat on him (over 20%) but everyone on the strongman circuit had a high opinion of his athleticism.

Well I would imagine if you could squat 600lbs and you are not over 260, you should be able to do a back flip haha! I guess genetics in general help you become a strong lifter upon everything else you are doing to improve yourself. So I would imagine that most extremely strong people are fairly athletic (which is a relative term).
All that chocolate milk puts you above 20% I'm sure.

[red_donn]

Well I would imagine if you could squat 600lbs and you are not over 260, you should be able to do a back flip haha! I guess genetics in general help you become a strong lifter upon everything else you are doing to improve yourself. So I would imagine that most extremely strong people are fairly athletic (which is a relative term).
All that chocolate milk puts you above 20% I'm sure.

Shane's well over 300. Plus, I'm pretty sure that most powerlifter's squatting 600 can't do a backflip without some training, since speed and coordination, rather than strength, play a big role in such things. Shane just did them because someone asked if he could.



Here he's setting the world record in the squat in an old, single-ply squat suit. Don't know what he was squatting raw for sure, but I do believe it was over 800.

[ballsmcgee]

^986 lb? what the hell, man? that guy isn't a beast, he's THE beast. Still found 1:10-1:12 to be the best part of the video...what the fuck was that?

*EDIT* Oh, he's stepping over something. that still is some funny looking shit. way to step over that the opposite of casually, bro.