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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby harryballz2029 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:34 am

seoulglo wrote:Watching Diaz Condit again
Strike count?

80% of those strikes seemed to be leg kicks that Nick willingly ate while he was moving forward.
I would call that a decent strategy by Candit, except for the fact that Nick never stopped moving forward.

Combine that with the fact that once they did end up exchanging, Nick got the better of the exchanges.
Much more significant strikes than the leg kicks taken while getting to that exchange.

Then, taunting gestures while moving forward.

And this was a unanimous decision.



Are leg kicks this valuable in MMA/UFC?

Don't significant strikes/ winning exchanges take precedent over "strikes landed"?

Can taunting hurt you, from a judge's POV?

Does

dude quit crying the fights been over and done with now for a long time. Strikes>taunting gestures.
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby jekidoruy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:58 am

Look i think they were making up for the screw job that happened to Shogun when he fought The dragon the first time. But leg kicks do add up and will take its toll on any fight whether they are good leg kicks or bad they still add up and score points
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby Lioncombo_g3 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:38 am

I sat there for an hour judgeing this fight on paper with pausing and rewinding every exchange

Nick won rounds 1-2-5 condit faught smart but Diaz won that fight folks

If u score it and count each strike Diaz lands way more than people remember all people remember is round 4 because Diaz didn't do a thin that round
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby KingJoe » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:43 am

fanatic wrote:Diaz didnt land shit, just ate low kicks and looked slow and helpless...

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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby JelloShooter » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:52 am

seoulglo wrote:Watching Diaz Condit again
Strike count?

80% of those strikes seemed to be leg kicks that Nick willingly ate while he was moving forward.
I would call that a decent strategy by Candit, except for the fact that Nick never stopped moving forward.

Combine that with the fact that once they did end up exchanging, Nick got the better of the exchanges.
Much more significant strikes than the leg kicks taken while getting to that exchange.

Then, taunting gestures while moving forward.

And this was a unanimous decision.



Are leg kicks this valuable in MMA/UFC?

Don't significant strikes/ winning exchanges take precedent over "strikes landed"?

Can taunting hurt you, from a judge's POV?

Does


The leg kicks were high in number and clearly slowing down Diaz. Diaz was taunting because he was frustrated making the judges think that nick thinks he was losing. If nick thought he was losing then the judges think he was losing.
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby CyberFedor » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:09 pm

It would be one thing if Condit didn't verbally say this would be a war and then run for the whole fight. I am a big fan of Condit's past work, but he was not the "Natural Born Killer" in that fight. I had Diaz 1,2, and 5 as well. Diaz also controlled the octagon the entire fight and landed harder punches.
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby Faintergirl » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:17 pm

AnotherRandommGuy wrote:butt hurt fans still researching this? condit won diaz lost get over it


LOL OUCH! Hey you might hurt his feelings hehe
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby Steveomac » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:30 pm

Wow this is the first im hearing of this argument
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby 6RANDON1POSEY9 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:46 pm

Would people give it a rest already? Condit pushed Diaz into retirement not because he was frustrated with the decision but because he knew that he lost. If you look at it closely and without bias It's clear. Sure it was close, it was no Machida/Rua 1 decision, but Diaz still lost.
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby kaliheadchopper » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:01 pm

DreadLobster wrote:Not this again. We already had a 100 page thread about this, and I'm willing to bet that not one new opinion or piece of information will be expressed if this thread turns into another 100 pages.


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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby duallie » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:04 pm

fanatic wrote:Diaz didnt land shit, just ate low kicks and looked slow and helpless...


this.

"taunting gestures while moving forward"???????????????????? :lol: :lol: :lol:
and just what points do those get? style??
this isn't figure-skating.
nick was doing those because he was flustered and couldn't mount any sort of offense.
that was frustration, not aggression. :lol:
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby AnotherRandommGuy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:20 pm

*conndit leg kicks diaz, diaz looks confused*
*diaz raises arms says "come on bitch yeah come on"*
Judge 1: Did you see that he's taunting him
Judge 2: yeah he definitely should get the round
*Judge 3 shakes his head"
*decision is announced*
"fighters clog twitter*
*Millions rage and cluster fuck everything*
*butt hurt fans come on linker make dumb threads. All he did was run, He wasn't hitting hard, Diaz controlled octagon etc.*
*condit and or MMA fans give good reasons as to why condit won*
*diaz fans ignore them and continue being butt hurt*
*months pass*
*noob creates the damn same thread*
*here comes the diaz fans and the cluster fuck*
*oblivion*
Sincerely fuck you diaz fans. He lost let it rest, he took his ball and went home I suggest you do the same
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Re: Condit had nothing on Diaz/ Leg kick scoring

Postby Steveomac » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:05 pm

AnotherRandommGuy wrote:*conndit leg kicks diaz, diaz looks confused*
*diaz raises arms says "come on bitch yeah come on"*
Judge 1: Did you see that he's taunting him
Judge 2: yeah he definitely should get the round
*Judge 3 shakes his head"
*decision is announced*
"fighters clog twitter*
*Millions rage and cluster fuck everything*
*butt hurt fans come on linker make dumb threads. All he did was run, He wasn't hitting hard, Diaz controlled octagon etc.*
*condit and or MMA fans give good reasons as to why condit won*
*diaz fans ignore them and continue being butt hurt*
*months pass*
*noob creates the damn same thread*
*here comes the diaz fans and the cluster fuck*
*oblivion*
Sincerely fuck you diaz fans. He lost let it rest, he took his ball and went home I suggest you do the same


Lol this is exactly what happened in the last two months
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