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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby JonB » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:07 pm

Valid move in my opinion. I do like a good standing elbow display. Would love to see more uppercut elbows.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby burtonboarder » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:37 pm

Jones is the reason why Elbows should never be illegal.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby finishyourfight » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:11 pm

cerambus wrote:Decisions about techniques can be divided into two categories:
1. A rational based on physiological research/data to demonstrate that they are dangerous beyond other techniques.

2. based on emotion in response to pressure from fans, sponsors, and critics.

The decision not to include eye gouging falls into both categories. The decision to make blows to the back of the head illegal came from the first category. The decision to get rid of knees to the head of grounded opponent came from the second.

Elbows will fall under category 2.

I like the way you wrote this... Knees to a downed opponent fits into category 1 IF you consider the position of a fighter on his hands and knees and his opponent throws a kneed to the top of the head inline with the spine... They could legalize knees with that one exception but maybe it's best to err to the side caution?

I like elbows. We don't need to take ANY attacks away from top position fighters... They get away with doing little enough as it is... And a cut to stop the fight is a legit way to win... You systematically break your opponent down till he can not continue or time has run out.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby wheresthebud » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:38 pm

mmafan559 wrote:Elbows directed towards a downed opponent.

There were a lot of cuts from elbows in the latest UFC, with most of these coming from elbow strikes to a downed opponent. I know other mma organizations do not allow either elbow strikes period or elbow strikes on the ground. There was an elbow thrown in an NBA game this weekend that resulted in a concussion for a player, and that was from just one strike to the head.

I am not a fan of elbows, as they can result in cuts that can cause (rarely, I know) fights to be stopped prematurely and an elbow point is a dangerous weapon when used by a trained professional fighter. Just watching a certain fighter throw elbows makes me cringe.

From what I have read Bellator does not allow elbows until the final tournament round, and that organization is praised for having very exciting fights. But why are they only allowed in the final round? Just makes me curious.

Strikeforce didn't used to allow elbows to the heads of downed opponents at all, but it seems they are adopting UFC rules that will allow them.

So I'm just curious on to any other linker thoughts on "throwin' bows".

Do you see the UFC possibly making them illegal at some point? It will probably take a Big Daddy type of bloodbath during a free event on FOX for this to even be considered.

Please, let us have an intelligent discussion on the aforementioned topic.

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I like elbows it's another weapon that can be used. The josh neer fight vs wisniewski was a bad ass elbow fight. Ken flo used to throw bows. Killa B threw some nice bows in his bellator debut.
I'm a fan of bows and would be sad if they did away with them because then they would want to take strikes away from the ground period and then no knees, You see if they start taking one thing away they might start taking more until the sport just becomes really neutered. Elbows add an excitement or sense of urgency to whoever is on which end of em and are just another weapon. This is a sport but also combat sport.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby MuayCrim » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:46 pm

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jaymoneymma26 wrote:if you don't want to get elbowed while your on the ground then get your ass up.

Well said brother

I agree, wrestlers already can't knee a downed opponent, we can't just keep taking away their finishing tools it's fucking bullshit.

Knees to a downed opponent, soccer kicks, AND elbows should all be legal. :evil:
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby 6RANDON1POSEY9 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:48 pm

If anything, with more time that goes by, I think you're gonna see certain techniques become legal and not banned.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby username78 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:05 pm

If elbows became illegal, how would you fight with broken hands? When Faber broke his hands, that's all he threw were standing bows.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby Zoidborg » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:13 pm

sure grab my hands
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby Lsquared » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:22 pm

i like pride rules.
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Re: Let's talk about elbows.

Postby DPino51 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:24 pm

Castrated Rhino wrote:
Bebomaldad wrote:This is a Jones hate thread in disguise. If they eliminate elbows in the UFC, there goes 1/4 of his arsenal. Every little bit counts, huh?.... HATERS!


Yea, and the funny thing is without elbows Jones would still beat all the people he's beaten so far, and people would just find something else to whine about. Vicious cycle.


seriously, the jones hate is just funny to me. he (likely) beat the dog shit out of your favorite fighter at LHW... GET OVER IT!!!!
HW - Ubereem, Mark Hunt, Daniel Cormier
LHW - Gustafson, Jimi Manuwa
MW - Belcher, Sonnen, Filthy Tom Lawlor, Hector Lombard, Paul Harris
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