For those that think Fedor=GOAT, what does Anderson....

[Tbone79]

fedor can't even compete against middle weights, what's with this topic? Obviously anderson is the best mma fighter to date, it's obvious. His record in the UFC, the most stacked division in the world which he dominates. Has moved up in weight which isnt even necessary. Fedor wouldnt last with the LHWs the ufc has, he couldn't get through hendo without getting slaughtered. Anderson easily took hendo out and fedor couldnt get out of the first round.

What creditable win does fedor even have, i can't think of one.

Off Topic: Can we make something lower than a white belt for people like this? I'm a white belt because I'm a lurker and I don't want to be associated with fools like this.

[pwerlifter2379]

I'm a fan of both, but Anderson doesn't have the same fighting spirit that Fedor has. You don't see him diving right into his opponents strengths, willing to challenge himself. Say what you want about Fedor's competition, but he fought the best available to him for over 10 years and took them all on at their own game, and usually won in dominating fashion.

This and Fedor hands down. To all you UFC newbies go back and watch Fedors fights, and by a clue. This guy dominated all HW for 10 years. To me it is a joke of a comparison and an insult to the one and only true GOAT Fedor.

[BjjBlack]

So what are your excuses for Silva losing to much worse fighters? At least the guys Fedor has lost to had areas where they were better than he was. Bigfoot was much bigger, stronger, and outweighed Fedor by close to 50 pounds. Werdum has the best BJJ in the HW division. Dan Henderson has some of the best power shots of anybody in any weight class in MMA and lest we forget he has the BEST chin is all of MMA.

Not to try and contradict the stoppages, but I know I am not the only one who thought if Fedor went out that 3rd round against bigfoot he was gonna get the KO, dude just looked so determine going into the 3rd. Also feel if the Henderson fight played out longer it would have gone Fedors way simply because of Dans cardio. No excuse for the Werdum fight but can confidently say I would take Fedor in a bet any day, and I feel for some odd reason Werdum would never agree to a rematch.

[pwerlifter2379]

fedor can't even compete against middle weights, what's with this topic? Obviously anderson is the best mma fighter to date, it's obvious. His record in the UFC, the most stacked division in the world which he dominates. Has moved up in weight which isnt even necessary. Fedor wouldnt last with the LHWs the ufc has, he couldn't get through hendo without getting slaughtered. Anderson easily took hendo out and fedor couldnt get out of the first round.

What creditable win does fedor even have, i can't think of one.

Off Topic: Can we make something lower than a white belt for people like this? I'm a white belt because I'm a lurker and I don't want to be associated with fools like this.

And this. You sir have been or should be upgraded pronto.

[therealgreen1]

Fight at his natural weight class and dominate the best of the best at that weight for 10ish years.

you do realize his Natural weight class is 170? he started out at 168 in shooto before ever competing in mw so i dont get how you think he belongs in 205

[IKnowuWannaBeMe]

So what are your excuses for Silva losing to much worse fighters? At least the guys Fedor has lost to had areas where they were better than he was. Bigfoot was much bigger, stronger, and outweighed Fedor by close to 50 pounds. Werdum has the best BJJ in the HW division. Dan Henderson has some of the best power shots of anybody in any weight class in MMA and lest we forget he has the BEST chin is all of MMA.

Not to try and contradict the stoppages, but I know I am not the only one who thought if Fedor went out that 3rd round against bigfoot he was gonna get the KO, dude just looked so determine going into the 3rd. Also feel if the Henderson fight played out longer it would have gone Fedors way simply because of Dans cardio. No excuse for the Werdum fight but can confidently say I would take Fedor in a bet any day, and I feel for some odd reason Werdum would never agree to a rematch.

I agree with this.

[2ys]

For starters, you have to be the best p4p fighter in the world. So far, Anderson has yet to achieve this. Anderson is like Justin Beaver; sure, he's talented and probably the most popular/hyped-up guy, but definitely not the best.

[2ys]

Fight at his natural weight class and dominate the best of the best at that weight for 10ish years.

you do realize his Natural weight class is 170? he started out at 168 in shooto before ever competing in mw so i dont get how you think he belongs in 205

This was a long while ago. Anderson is MUCH larger now than he ever was. Anderson and others openly stated that he walks around 220-230. 170 is not his natural weight. He couldn't even cut to 170.

[Orangepeel]

He needs to fight in organizations that are known to fix fights. Oh, and he needs to avoid fighting the best people in his weight class while continuing to take fights against ridiculously terrible opponents who are waaaay past their prime. It's also very necessary for him to take a ton of damage in his fights so that he can show how good he is at taking damage.

Lastly, he should fight Zuluzinho, because until he does, he hasn't truly been tested.

[Lamer]

Fight at his natural weight class and dominate the best of the best at that weight for 10ish years.

you do realize his Natural weight class is 170? he started out at 168 in shooto before ever competing in mw so i dont get how you think he belongs in 205

His natural weight class is HW. Anderson walks around above the LHW limit, aka his natural weight. He's been cutting weight for a very long time, which is why you use to see him at 170. He was younger back than, though.

[DreadLobster]

He needs to fight in organizations that are known to fix fights. Oh, and he needs to avoid fighting the best people in his weight class while continuing to take fights against ridiculously terrible opponents who are waaaay past their prime. It's also very necessary for him to take a ton of damage in his fights so that he can show how good he is at taking damage.

Also, he should fight Zuluzinho, because until he does, he hasn't truly been tested.

Oh, Anderson DID fight in that same organization.

[jamescydonia]

He needs to fight in organizations that are known to fix fights. Oh, and he needs to avoid fighting the best people in his weight class while continuing to take fights against ridiculously terrible opponents who are waaaay past their prime. It's also very necessary for him to take a ton of damage in his fights so that he can show how good he is at taking damage.

Lastly, he should fight Zuluzinho, because until he does, he hasn't truly been tested.

Not even worth responding to...
...but I am, only to say this

[MrBojan9les]

For starters, you have to be the best p4p fighter in the world. So far, Anderson has yet to achieve this. Anderson is like Justin Beaver; sure, he's talented and probably the most popular/hyped-up guy, but definitely not the best.

What? You mean he hasn't made it to the top of your list...? Because he's at the top of pretty much everyone else's currently..

[DreadLobster]

For starters, you have to be the best p4p fighter in the world. So far, Anderson has yet to achieve this. Anderson is like Justin Beaver; sure, he's talented and probably the most popular/hyped-up guy, but definitely not the best.

What? You mean he hasn't made it to the top of your list...? Because he's at the top of pretty much everyone else's currently..

Justin Bieber is at the top of your list? Good to know.

[YHWH]

Have to do to be considered GOAT to you?

Not dance around the ring against very lesser fighters. When Silva retires, if he's still undefeated he'll be the GOAT in my eyes. Fedor just seems incredible because he took on fighters much larger than him and whooped them. I think they're too close to call really, I think Silva has fought a little harder competition though which will give him the edge.

Anderson's 4 losses to 'Asian' fighters who weren't anywhere near the top of the heap when he faced them does not compare favourably to Fedor's losses to a BJJ world champion, a monster with good BJJ and a LHW who was fighting as a HW (his natural weight) who has a solid chin and a huge right hand to go with his wrestling.

All of Fedor's recent losses are to top competition (and the 'loss' to Kohsaka was a joke/bad decision that only happened due to it being in a tournament where someone had to advance since no alternates seemed to be available), all of Silva's losses were to lower ranked fighters (even if he was winning those fights, he still lost to guys that were poor quality opposition).

Even if Anderson retires with no new losses, I cannot see him being GOAT except in the eyes of those who buy what DW sells. This isn't a bash on Anderson, but he won't go unbeaten for 10 years facing bigger guys who were favoured to beat him. Silva just doesn't have that desire to face men his own natural size anymore, nor does he have the years left to go 10 years without a loss (unless he keeps fighting for another 5 years, which seems to be a really long shot).