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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby 50calReaper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:43 pm

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Irrational discussions like this are the reason why I've never been able to enjoy Fedor's fights, so thanks for that.

1) Don't blame me for you acting irrational and allowing that you force you into hating one of the best fighters ever so much that you actually didn't enjoy his amazing career.

2) Don't hate me because your boy ducked Pride and Cage Rage so he can go someplace and fight Chris Leben LMAO.


I'm blaming you for, rarely directly responding to my arguments, never answering my pertinent questions, and all the while omitting facts about Anderson and exaggerating facts about Fedor. All irrational fanboy bullcrap, and sadly most Fedor fans are like this so it's hard to actually enjoy him anymore. You're on the verge of rivaling Kusok

And to further my point...you reference Anderson Silva's UFC debut as if that is the only person worth mentioning that he has beaten in the UFC, completely disregarding the fact that despite Leben's inferiority in the rankings, Anderson Silva had a 100% accuracy in the fight, was the first to KO Leben, and did it all in 39 seconds. Yeah, he sucks. Meanwhile in Pride, Fedor punches out Wagner Martins ( :lol: ), submits a dinosaur he had already beaten, and submits a kickboxer that outgrappled him for the majority of the fight...forgive me for not being overly impressed with your messiah.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby irishmike357 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:51 pm

50calReaper wrote:I'm blaming you for, rarely directly responding to my arguments, never answering my pertinent questions, and all the while omitting facts about Anderson and exaggerating facts about Fedor. All irrational fanboy bullcrap, and sadly most Fedor fans are like this so it's hard to actually enjoy him anymore. You're on the verge of rivaling Kusok

And to further my point...you reference Anderson Silva's UFC debut as if that is the only person worth mentioning that he has beaten in the UFC, completely disregarding the fact that despite Leben's inferiority in the rankings, Anderson Silva had a 100% accuracy in the fight, was the first to KO Leben, and did it all in 39 seconds. Yeah, he sucks. Meanwhile in Pride, Fedor punches out Wagner Martins ( :lol: ), submits a dinosaur he had already beaten, and submits a kickboxer that outgrappled him for the majority of the fight...forgive me for not being overly impressed with your messiah.

Well you are not saying anything for me to discuss. You think Fedor fought only cans and Silva is an uber god. You pick out certain things in his career and compare it to certain parts of Silva's, yeah that is fair.

Like I said. Compare who Fedor fought with who Silva fought and there is no comparison. Fedor beat the best in the business at the time, Silva beat the best in the weakest division imaginable.

The reason I brought up Leben is because that is who he fought when he ducked Pride/Cage Rage.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby irishmike357 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:02 pm

50calReaper wrote:As for grappling and sambo? Really? That's why he's old and broken now is because somebody pulled on his belt a little too hard? Please, Anderson has extensive Muay Thai experience.

Typical Anderson Silva fan. How many pro Muay Thai Matches does he have? ZERO. How many amateur thai fights? 1. Roger Huerta has more Muay Thai experience than Silva.

And if you really think Combat Sambo at the highest level is a guy pulling to hard on your belt you are a retard and have shamed your family.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby makikomiking » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:24 pm

50calReaper wrote:
irishmike357 wrote:
50calReaper wrote:
Irrational discussions like this are the reason why I've never been able to enjoy Fedor's fights, so thanks for that.

1) Don't blame me for you acting irrational and allowing that you force you into hating one of the best fighters ever so much that you actually didn't enjoy his amazing career.

2) Don't hate me because your boy ducked Pride and Cage Rage so he can go someplace and fight Chris Leben LMAO.


I'm blaming you for, rarely directly responding to my arguments, never answering my pertinent questions, and all the while omitting facts about Anderson and exaggerating facts about Fedor. All irrational fanboy bullcrap, and sadly most Fedor fans are like this so it's hard to actually enjoy him anymore. You're on the verge of rivaling Kusok

And to further my point...you reference Anderson Silva's UFC debut as if that is the only person worth mentioning that he has beaten in the UFC, completely disregarding the fact that despite Leben's inferiority in the rankings, Anderson Silva had a 100% accuracy in the fight, was the first to KO Leben, and did it all in 39 seconds. Yeah, he sucks. Meanwhile in Pride, Fedor punches out Wagner Martins ( :lol: ), submits a dinosaur he had already beaten, and submits a kickboxer that outgrappled him for the majority of the fight...forgive me for not being overly impressed with your messiah.


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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby 50calReaper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:33 pm

irishmike357 wrote:
50calReaper wrote:I'm blaming you for, rarely directly responding to my arguments, never answering my pertinent questions, and all the while omitting facts about Anderson and exaggerating facts about Fedor. All irrational fanboy bullcrap, and sadly most Fedor fans are like this so it's hard to actually enjoy him anymore. You're on the verge of rivaling Kusok

And to further my point...you reference Anderson Silva's UFC debut as if that is the only person worth mentioning that he has beaten in the UFC, completely disregarding the fact that despite Leben's inferiority in the rankings, Anderson Silva had a 100% accuracy in the fight, was the first to KO Leben, and did it all in 39 seconds. Yeah, he sucks. Meanwhile in Pride, Fedor punches out Wagner Martins ( :lol: ), submits a dinosaur he had already beaten, and submits a kickboxer that outgrappled him for the majority of the fight...forgive me for not being overly impressed with your messiah.

Well you are not saying anything for me to discuss. You think Fedor fought only cans and Silva is an uber god. You pick out certain things in his career and compare it to certain parts of Silva's, yeah that is fair.

Like I said. Compare who Fedor fought with who Silva fought and there is no comparison. Fedor beat the best in the business at the time, Silva beat the best in the weakest division imaginable.

The reason I brought up Leben is because that is who he fought when he ducked Pride/Cage Rage.


I was simply using the exact same logic as you two. He brought up Leites, Cote, and Maia, so I brought up Goodridge and Wagner Martins. Yet you're only going to call me out? You say this "You think Fedor fought only cans and Silva is an uber god" yet I was just copying what you guys were doing to show you how stupid it was, and guess what, you've resulted to insulting me? So I guess I can call that a mission accomplished a job well done eh? The MW division was actually very competitive before Anderson came around, much like the WW before GSP came along. If Anderson wasn't in there, the rankings would be crazy, just because Anderson is so much better than his comp, doesn't make the comp bad. I know Fedor didn't look that graceful in his victories, but that doesn't suddenly mean Mark Hunt is a grappling god just because he wrestle-raped Fedor for a good amount of time.

And how did he duck Cage Rage? By becoming their champ and then going to the UFC to beat the champ? Are you serious? Cage Rage was when he really came into his own and started becoming the Anderson we know today, and took all comers, yet he ducked that organization? And you're still going to go on with this Pride ducking bullcrap? He was 3-2 in Pride as opposed to Fedor's 1-3 in SF and Anderson beat Sakurai, a much better fight than Chonan or Takase. On top of that he blasted Newton's face off of his skin with a beautifully timed flying knee. Who exactly was he ducking? His coach Wanderlei? You're not making sense.

At least Anderson has fought in all major organizations save for SF. Where has Fedor fought? Pride and the retarded cousin of the UFC, SF, and he went 1-3 there. Your case isn't looking strong buddy. All you've done is resort to restating your opinion and then subtly calling me stupid because you disagree with my opinion, which tells me you've got nothing, just a bunch of bold statements with no evidence to back them up.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby 50calReaper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:42 pm

irishmike357 wrote:
50calReaper wrote:As for grappling and sambo? Really? That's why he's old and broken now is because somebody pulled on his belt a little too hard? Please, Anderson has extensive Muay Thai experience.

Typical Anderson Silva fan. How many pro Muay Thai Matches does he have? ZERO. How many amateur thai fights? 1. Roger Huerta has more Muay Thai experience than Silva.

And if you really think Combat Sambo at the highest level is a guy pulling to hard on your belt you are a retard and have shamed your family.


Anderson didn't get as good as he is at muay thai just from hitting a punching bag, but I'll admit, that's the obscure part of the Anderson Silva argument, but that second part was a joke and you need to learn to take it. Bottom line is, sambo does not induce as much wear and tear onto your body as MMA or kickboxing/muay thai. The thing that causes the most damage is striking, because it the receiving strong concussive blows to different parts of your body, and the longer the fight goes on, the more damage you sustain. Sambo is mainly cardio and explosive muscle power. It's demanding of your cardio yes, but it's not going to wear you down to the point of retiring at 35. This comes from concussive damage. Unless Fedor has sustained multiple serious muscle injuries through sambo, there is no case to be made. Anderson Silva is a black belt in judo, and although he hasn't been in any competitions, he has extensive experience in grappling (as he is also a BJJ black belt) but I wouldn't use his extensive grappling background as an excuse as to why he lost 3 fights in a row. I mean, are you serious?

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Bigfoot: Rape
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Must've been the sambo eh?

But I've shamed my family, for making a simple small joke in the middle of a vast amount of logic and reasoning? Meanwhile here you sit, completely serious about Fedor losing from sambo.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby Brickbat » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:44 pm

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veinsonfire wrote:So whoever ducks the most in the WW division will be p4p best.

Yep. I would have said BJ Penn since he retired and ducked everyone, then he started accepting fights again like a man so can't be him.

GSP has ducked for a long time, Condit is at the for front of ducking via calling out Kampmann (who then out ducked Condit) and then ducking Hendricks. Diaz has ducked GSP and the media and then retired ducking everyone then ducking kids as well.

Man this is a tough call.


Maybe BJ could run on the technicality that he is ducking the entire LW division AND his true potential.


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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby burtonboarder » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:46 pm

SamuraixJack wrote:Mayweather ducked Sean Sherk


Ha, I remember that, instead of being LnP humped by Sherk maybe he will get humped in jail for hitting his wife.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby SamuraixJack » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:44 pm

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SamuraixJack wrote:Mayweather ducked Sean Sherk


Ha, I remember that, instead of being LnP humped by Sherk maybe he will get humped in jail for hitting his wife.

yup. thats why everytime i see him on his little prissy rants about mma i just smile and think how badly sherk would have raped him :lol:
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby irishmike357 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:53 pm

50cal, want to know why I won't respond to your VAST amounts of reason? Cause I have no fucking clue what you are arguing lol. Anderson Silva duck Pride, that is what I said and it is true. Say what ever you want about Fedor or Marcus Davis or any other fighter I like I could care less. Silva ducked Pride. :biggrin:
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby 50calReaper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:57 pm

irishmike357 wrote:50cal, want to know why I won't respond to your VAST amounts of reason? Cause I have no fucking clue what you are arguing lol. Anderson Silva duck Pride, that is what I said and it is true. Say what ever you want about Fedor or Marcus Davis or any other fighter I like I could care less. Silva ducked Pride. :biggrin:


Translation: You're making too much sense for me and I have no logic or evidence to back up all of my arguments, so I will now attempt to make a futile effort at acting like you are talking nonsense, when in reality, I am, because I know I'm wrong. Troll mode will now engage.

Sound about right?
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby irishmike357 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:00 pm

50calReaper wrote:
irishmike357 wrote:50cal, want to know why I won't respond to your VAST amounts of reason? Cause I have no fucking clue what you are arguing lol. Anderson Silva duck Pride, that is what I said and it is true. Say what ever you want about Fedor or Marcus Davis or any other fighter I like I could care less. Silva ducked Pride. :biggrin:


Translation: You're making too much sense for me and I have no logic or evidence to back up all of my arguments, so I will now attempt to make a futile effort at acting like you are talking nonsense, when in reality, I am, because I know I'm wrong. Troll mode will now engage.

Sound about right?

Translation: I actually don't have a point so I will pretend like my posts were too logical for you to answer and the classic go to of calling you a troll will get me out of not actually having a point.

Sound about right?

Honestly tell me your point so we can discuss it.
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby WandyCroCop » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:02 pm

veinsonfire wrote:So whoever ducks the most in the WW division will be p4p best.
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Who did Kampmann duck? He's getting neck surgery!
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby 50calReaper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:05 pm

WandyCroCop wrote:
veinsonfire wrote:So whoever ducks the most in the WW division will be p4p best.
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Who did Kampmann duck? He's getting neck surgery!


Isn't the need for neck surgery a side-effect of repeated and aggressive ducking?! :shock:
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Re: Duckers = Winners (Proof inside)

Postby irishmike357 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:07 pm

50calReaper wrote:
WandyCroCop wrote:
veinsonfire wrote:So whoever ducks the most in the WW division will be p4p best.
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Who did Kampmann duck? He's getting neck surgery!


Isn't the need for neck surgery a side-effect of repeated and aggressive ducking?! :shock:

Yes and I thought it was knee surgery?

He is ducking Condit though because he didn't say he was having surgery until after Condit challenged him. LIke how Bisping is ducking Lombard.
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