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Do you consider Hendo a steroid cheat?

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Is Dan Henderson a steroid cheat?

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Re: Do you consider Hendo a steroid cheat?

Postby ansell » Sat May 26, 2012 6:40 am

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ansellbwoy wrote:I know your addressing someone else now, but I did make my argument about the difference between insulin and trt on the previous page, and how trt grants an advantage, even with people like hendo.


Again, I'm still not saying it potentially can't. I'm saying ethically, and legally we cant discriminate because of a legitimate medical deficiency. I say ethically because it is a legitimate medical issue. It may not be for everyone involved in TRT at this time, but we can't punish the ones it is a problem for because someone abused the system.


I understand where your coming from. But I'm making it clear, anyone on trt, whether they like it or not, or even want it, they have an advantage, even over young bucks. Being on trt means a daily dose of steroids (testosterone) which brings their levels above normal. If trt meant only getting to a max of 1:1 ratio, why even declare it? They'd pass all tests anyway.

As for hendo in particular, I wouldn't call him a cheat. I believe he's doing everything he can to stay legal with the condition he has. But does he take steroids? Yes. Does he gain an advantage? Yes. Even if he hates having it.
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Re: Do you consider Hendo a steroid cheat?

Postby BrockTheBroccoli » Sat May 26, 2012 2:07 pm

Normal, athletic, competition age people are 1:1

The NSAC allows 6:1, for whatever fucking stupid reason

Dan has a prescription to use testosterone

He can use as much as he wants as long as under 6:1

Dan Henderson has a license to abuse the system, and with the amount of fame/money and everything at stake, you can be sure that he is pushing it to the limit

Love watching him fight, but let's be honest here.... Hendo has been accused of being a d1ck by more than a fair share of people. Not sure why he is so worshipped...
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Re: Do you consider Hendo a steroid cheat?

Postby SamuraixJack » Sat May 26, 2012 3:41 pm

smh fan bias is the only reason people would say he isnt.
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Re: Do you consider Hendo a steroid cheat?

Postby DGPratt28 » Sat May 26, 2012 6:56 pm

ansellbwoy wrote:
I understand where your coming from. But I'm making it clear, anyone on trt, whether they like it or not, or even want it, they have an advantage, even over young bucks. Being on trt means a daily dose of steroids (testosterone) which brings their levels above normal. If trt meant only getting to a max of 1:1 ratio, why even declare it? They'd pass all tests anyway.

As for hendo in particular, I wouldn't call him a cheat. I believe he's doing everything he can to stay legal with the condition he has. But does he take steroids? Yes. Does he gain an advantage? Yes. Even if he hates having it.



That's exactly what I've been saying as well, as far as Hendo and only Hendo is concerned.

Again, I think Overeem, Chael, and Nate all took TRT, didn't go through any legal channels, were trying to use it to cheat, and got popped. I don't think Hendo has ever really been trying to use it to cheat. I think he actually needs it, because he's on it all of the time. The guys who have all been popped pick and choose when they need TRT. Dan doesn't.

Also, as far as everyone saying it's solely from steroid abuse. You're off base. Is it probably partially from steroid abuse? Can't say, but I'll give it that I can't prove no so for argument's sake we'll say yes. It's also from repeated trauma to the body, which can damage the adrenal glands that also secrete small amounts of testosterone, or hell, even damage to his testicles during training and fights can cause this issue.

So, while again, not saying steroids are no factor at all, all of the additional trauma his body has taken from his career is also a factor. To think it had no bearing what so ever is beyond irrational, and just as bias as claiming the other side of the argument is without reading its reasoning.
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